Andrew de Douglas of Hermiston

 

 

 

  • Birth: in Living in 1259
  • Death: 1259

Father:  said to be Sir Archibald, 2nd of Douglas (& of Hermiston)  b: 1213  But see below)
Mother: said to be Margaret de Crawford b: ABT. 1195 in Crawford, Ayrshire, Scotland


Andrew de Douglas of Hermiston, from which the Morton line sprang, was born prior to 1225 and died circa 1277. He was the 2nd son of Sir Archibald de Douglas and younger brother of Sir William "Longlegs", ancestor of the Black Douglases, of the Earls of Morton and Douglases of Mains.

 



Comments:
1.  From Scots Peerage:
"ANDREW OF DOUGLAS, who is claimed as the ancestor of the Earls of Morton. It is nowhere stated that he was the son of Archibald of Douglas, but the latter received, some time before 1226, the lands of Hermiston in Midlothian and Livingston in West Lothian from Malcolm, Earl of Fife, and as these lands are found later in the possession of Andrew, there is a strong presumption that he was the son of Archibald."
2.   Sir Andrew Douglas of Hermiston, is often attributed to Archibald of Douglas, although without primary evidence, arguably due to this Andrew's possession of the lands of Hermiston; said lands previously held by Archibald. However an Andrew de Douglas was a known Knight of Archibald de Douglas and never proven as his biological son.  Y-DNA research analysis published in 2013 by Alexandrina Murray, Administrator of the Murray Clan DNA Research Project  and via the Douglas Y-DNA project at Family Tree DNA administered by Kirk Douglas, which results were discussed at the University of St Andrews Scotland Conference: Scotland and the Flemish People during May of 2016. This Y-DNA research has proven that the haplogroup R1b descendants of Andrew Douglas of Hermiston do not match the known descendants of Archibald Douglas via Archibald's son William above haplogroup R1a, through the ennobled Scottish line of the Earls; Dukes and Marquess' of Queensberry line of Douglas.  Nor do they match the I2b1 Y-DNA haplogroup of the noble Douglas-Hamilton line the most senior Douglas family as Dukes of Hamilton, also noted in the historical literature as being descended from the original progenitor - William l de Douglas ; 1140 -1214 circa.
Therefore William Douglas and Andrew Douglas were definitely unrelated paternally if the published genealogical trees are correct, with Andrew de Douglas of Hermiston possibly receiving Hermiston lands as a reward due to his services as a Knight of Archibald de Douglas as argued by Alexandrina Murray.


Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
Children
  1.  William (of Hermiston) Douglas b: in Living 1277
  2.  Joan Douglas b: 1258 in Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland

 

 

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