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Name |
Robert De Bruges |
Gender |
Male |
Death |
Aft 1051 |
Person ID |
I160825 |
My Genealogy |
Last Modified |
17 Nov 2020 |
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Notes |
- "Could Robert de Bruges, as a younger son of the powerful Count ofLouvain, have accepted the post of Castellan from the Count of Flanders?Most certainly, yes! The Count of Flanders was then, de facto, probablythe most powerful sovereign in northwest Europe. Bruges was strategicallyof huge importance. It would be a very attractive offer, especially to alandless younger son, and it could be expected to lead on to furtheropportunities (such as the offer to accompany the Count's daughter toNormandy, when she left to marry Duke William, the eventual Conqueror ofEngland, an offer that would entail a grant of land in the Cotentin"
From Baronage at http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-05.html
"Robert de Bruges (Castellan of Bruges 1046, emigrated to Normandy 1051)
This connection (showing that this Robert may have been a younger son ofLambert I, Count of Louvain) has been suggested by 'Baronage' (seewww.baronage.co.uk) after consideration of heraldic and other clues
m. Emma of Brittany (dau of Allan, Earl of Brittany)
1. Adelm (or Allan) de Brus (remained in Normandy)
Sources disagree whether the son of Robert de Bruges who was ancestorof the Bruces of Scotland was called Adelm/Allan or Robert, although mostseem to agree that it was the second son who was that ancestor.
2. Robert de Brusse (came to England with William the Conqueror, 1066)
m. Agnes de St Clair (dau of Waldonius, Earl of St Clair)
A. William de Brusse
B. Adam de Brusse of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland (d 1098)
m. Emma de Ramsay (dau of Sir William de Ramsay)
i. Robert de Bruce, Lord of Skelton and 1st of Annandale (d 05.1141)
m. Agnes de Paganell (dau of Fulk de Paganell) "
From Bruce at
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/bb4fz/bruce1.htm
at Stirnet Genealogy, Families Database
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/genfam.htm
Baronage (http://www.baronage.co.uk)
Has extensive discussion about the Bruce origins at five different webpages:
The Ancestry of Robert the Bruce I ~ The first Earls of Carrick
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-01.html
The Ancestry of Robert the Bruce ~ II. Bruces from Normandy
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-02.html
The Ancestry of Robert the Bruce III ~ The Mysterious Blue Lion
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-03.html
Ancestry of Robert the Bruce, Part IV ~ The Blue Lion in Flanders
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-04.html
The Ancestry of Robert the Bruce To summarise
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-05.html
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