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Margaret (of Erroll) Hay

Margaret (of Erroll) Hay

Female Abt 1453 - Yes, date unknown

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Margaret (of Erroll) Hay was born about 1453 (daughter of William (1st Earl of Erroll) 2nd Lord Hay and Beatrice Douglas); and died.

    Margaret married Alexander (4th of Philorth) Fraser about 1470. Alexander (son of Alexander (Sir) (3rd of Philorth) Fraser and Marjory Menzies) died before 1480. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. William (6th of Philorth) Fraser was born in 1474; died on 5 Sep 1513 in Paris, France.
    2. Alexander (Sir) (5th of Philorth) Fraser died on 9 Jul 1499 in Dsp.

    Margaret married Sir Gilbert (3rd of Inverugie) Keith after 7 May 1491. Gilbert (son of Keith) was born about 1418; died about 1494. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Margaret married Sir Robert (of Lochleven) Douglas about 1500. Robert (son of Sir Robert (of Lochleven) Douglas and Elizabeth Boswell) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Thomas Douglas and died.
    2. Henry Douglas was born in Living In 1520; and died.
    3. Margaret Douglas and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William (1st Earl of Erroll) 2nd Lord Hay (son of Gilbert Haye and Alice (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay); died in 1462.

    William married Beatrice Douglas before 17 Mar 1450. Beatrice (daughter of James (7th Earl of) (The Gross) Douglas and Beatrix Sinclair) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Beatrice Douglas (daughter of James (7th Earl of) (The Gross) Douglas and Beatrix Sinclair); and died.
    Children:
    1. Elizabeth (of Erroll) Hay died after 27 Jun 1509.
    2. Nicholas (2nd Earl of Erroll) Hay died in 1470.
    3. William (3rd Earl of Erroll) Hay died on 14 Jan 1506-1507.
    4. Beatrice (of Erroll) Hay and died.
    5. Isabel (of Erroll) Hay and died.
    6. Maria (of Erroll) Hay and died.
    7. 1. Margaret (of Erroll) Hay was born about 1453; and died.
    8. Gilbert Hay


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Gilbert Haye (son of Sir William (8Th Baron Erroll) De La Haye and Margaret Gray); died on 7 Sep 1436.

    Gilbert + Alice (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay. Alice (daughter of Sir William (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay and Alicia (of Erroll) Hay) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Alice (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay (daughter of Sir William (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay and Alicia (of Erroll) Hay); and died.
    Children:
    1. 2. William (1st Earl of Erroll) 2nd Lord Hay died in 1462.
    2. Many Generations of Hay and died.

  3. 6.  James (7th Earl of) (The Gross) Douglas was born in 1370 (son of Archibald (The Grim, 3rd Earl of Douglas) Douglas and Joan\Johana (of Strathearn) Moray); died on 24 Mar 1442-1443.

    Notes:

    Earl of Avondale and Balvany
    Warden of the Marches in 1409

    James married Beatrix Sinclair before 7 Mar 1425 in Orkney, Scotland. Beatrix (daughter of Henry (1st Earl of Orkney) Sinclair and Jean (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton) died before 8 Feb 1462. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Beatrix Sinclair (daughter of Henry (1st Earl of Orkney) Sinclair and Jean (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton); died before 8 Feb 1462.

    Notes:

    I believe that Beatrix Sinclair, who married James the Gross 7th Earl ofDouglas, whom you show as the daughter of Henry (2nd Earl of Orkney)Sinclair, was in fact the daughter of Henry (1st Earl of Orkney)Sinclair. SP, at 6:570-571, assigns her to the second Earl Henry but CP,at 4:435 note c, is unsure which Earl Henry was her father. This doubtseems to have been resolved by Andrew B. W. MacEwen in his article SomeCorrections to the Sinclair Pedigree, which appears in THE GENEALOGIST,volume 2 (1981), at 51-53. MacEwen says, with regard to her parentage,that

    [t]his is not really a question, however, for the second Earl Henrymarried
    a niece of James the Gross. Had Beatrix been a daughter of thismarriage,
    she would have been her husbands grandniece (of the half blood),since
    William (Sir) Douglas of Nithsdale was the natural son of Archibaldthe
    Grim, 3rd Earl of Douglas. Such a relationship is inherentlyunlikely,
    and two dispensations disprove it altogether. The sons of Beatrix,William
    and James, the 8th and 9th Earls of Douglas, were successivehusbands
    of their cousin Margaret, only daughter of Archibald, 5th Earl ofDouglas.
    Her mother, Euphemia Graham, was a descendant of Robert II, whileher
    father the 5th Earl was himself a grandson of Robert III.

    The dispensations are dated 24 July 1444 and 27 February 1452/3, and
    in each the relationship dispensed is the 2nd and 3rd ofconsanguinity
    (representing the common descent from Archibald the Grim). Had
    Countess Beatrix also been descended both from Robert II and from
    Archibald the Grim, her sons would have been related to Margaret in
    three additional ways (4th and 3rd, 4th and 4th, and 4th and 4th of
    consanguinity), but this is clearly not the case. Beatrix was thus a
    daughter of the first Earl Henry, slain in 1404, and she was probably
    his youngest, or even posthumous, child.

    From Douglas Hickling, Dhhic@comcast.net, 516 Blair Avenue, Piedmont, CA94611. 1 February 2002

    SP=THE SCOTS PEERAGE was edited by James (Sir) Balfour Paul. 9 volumes.Volume 1 published in 1904 and volume 8 in 1911. Volume 9, before 1925(includes the index)

    CP= THE COMPLETE PEERAGE
    Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain & theUnited
    Kingdom : by G. E. Cokayne (Hardcover - March 2001]

    Children:
    1. William (8th Earl of Douglas) Douglas was born about 1425; died on 22 Feb 1450-1451 in Stirling Castle.
    2. Archibald (Earl of Moray) Douglas was born in 1426; died on 1 May 1455 in Battle Of Arkinholm.
    3. Hugh (Earl of Ormond) Douglas died in 1455 in Executed.
    4. John (Lord of Balveny) Douglas died about 1455 in Edinburgh, Scotland.
    5. Margaret Douglas died in 1473.
    6. Henry Douglas and died.
    7. George Douglas and died.
    8. 3. Beatrice Douglas and died.
    9. Elizabeth (of Douglas) Douglas and died.
    10. Janet (of Douglas) Douglas was born in 1398 in Brechin, Lanarkshire, Scotland; and died.
    11. James (9th Earl of) Douglas was born about 1440; died on 22 May 1491.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Sir William (8Th Baron Erroll) De La Haye (son of Thomas (7th Baron Great Constable) De La Haye and Elizabeth (Princess of Scotland) Stewart); died in 1437.

    William + Margaret Gray. Margaret (daughter of Sir Patrick (3rd of Broxmouth) Gray and Margaret Margaret) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Margaret Gray (daughter of Sir Patrick (3rd of Broxmouth) Gray and Margaret Margaret); and died.
    Children:
    1. 4. Gilbert Haye died on 7 Sep 1436.

  3. 10.  Sir William (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay (son of Thomas (Sir) (of Locherworth) De Haya and Joanna (of Yester) Gifford); died in 1421.

    William + Alicia (of Erroll) Hay. Alicia (daughter of Thomas (7th Baron Great Constable) De La Haye and Elizabeth (Princess of Scotland) Stewart) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Alicia (of Erroll) Hay (daughter of Thomas (7th Baron Great Constable) De La Haye and Elizabeth (Princess of Scotland) Stewart); and died.
    Children:
    1. Thomas (Sir) (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay died in Feb 1433-1434 in Unmarried.
    2. Margaret (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay died after 1484.
    3. David (Sir) (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay died before 2 Sep 1478.
    4. Edmund Hay and died.
    5. 5. Alice (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay and died.
    6. Elizabeth (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay and died.
    7. Jean (of Locherwort & Yester) Hay and died.
    8. Beatrice (of Yester) Hay and died.

  5. 12.  Archibald (The Grim, 3rd Earl of Douglas) Douglas was born about 1346 (son of Sir James "The Good" Douglas, Lord Of Douglas and Unknown); died on 24 Dec 1400.

    Notes:

    Archibald Douglas, Earl of Douglas and Wigtown, Lord of Galloway, Douglas and Bothwell, called Archibald the Grim or Black Archibald, was a late medieval Scottish nobleman. Archibald was the bastard son of Sir James "the Black" Douglas, Robert I's trusted lieutenant, and an unknown mother. A first cousin of William 1st Earl of Douglas, he inherited the earldom of Douglas and its entailed estates as the third earl following the death without legitimate issue of James 2nd Earl of Douglas at the Battle of Otterburn.

    He may, or may not, have had the same mother as William.

    Archibald married Joan\Johana (of Strathearn) Moray in 1362. Joan\Johana (daughter of Sir Maurice (9th Earl of Strathearn) Moray and Joanna Menteith) was born about 1350; died in Aug 1409 in Threave Castle, Galloway; was buried in Aug 1429. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Joan\Johana (of Strathearn) Moray was born about 1350 (daughter of Sir Maurice (9th Earl of Strathearn) Moray and Joanna Menteith); died in Aug 1409 in Threave Castle, Galloway; was buried in Aug 1429.
    Children:
    1. Sir William (Lord of Nithsdale) Douglas was born about 1364; died in 1420.
    2. Eleanor Douglas was born about 1367; and died.
    3. Archibald (Tyneman, 4th Earl of) Douglas was born about 1370; died in 1409.
    4. 6. James (7th Earl of) (The Gross) Douglas was born in 1370; died on 24 Mar 1442-1443.
    5. Marjory (Mary) Douglas was born about 1377; died in 1421.
    6. Catherine Douglas and died.
    7. Helen Douglas

  7. 14.  Henry (1st Earl of Orkney) Sinclair was born about 1340 (son of Sir William (Laird of Rosslyn) Sinclair and Isabella (of Orkney) of Strathearn); died in 1404 in Battle Of Orkney.

    Notes:

    See also Stirnet Genealogy at
    'Sinclair01'
    http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ss4as/sinclair01.htm#drumm
    Families covered: Sinclair of Caithness, Sinclair of Dun, Sinclair ofMey, Sinclair of Murchil, Sinclair of Orkney, Sinclair of Ratter,Sinclair of Roslin

    Main sources: TSP (Orkney), BE1883 (Orkney), TSP (Caithness), BP1934(Caithness), TSP (Sinclair), BP1934 (Sinclair).

    TSP = "The Scots Peerage", founded on Wood's Edition of Sir RobertDouglas's "Peerage of Scotland". Edited by Sir James Balfour Paul.Published 1908.

    BE1883 = Burke's Extinct Peerage "Genealogical History of the Dormant,Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire by Burke"(1883 edition).
    Copies of this are held in many of the larger public libraries in the UK."

    BP1934 = Burke's Peerage and Baronetage ""A Genealogical and HeraldicHistory of the Peerage and Baronetage" by Sir Bernard Burke, 92ndedition. Published by Burke's Peerage Ltd in 1934."

    Henry + Jean (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton. Jean (daughter of Sir Walter (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton and Marjory (Mary) Douglas) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Jean (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton (daughter of Sir Walter (of Dirleton Castle) Halyburton and Marjory (Mary) Douglas); and died.

    Notes:

    Her father sometimes shown as William (Sir) (of Dirleton Castle)Haliburton
    However
    From Doug Hickling

    "I can supply the correct first name of the father of Jean Haliburton who
    married Henry (1st Earl of Orkney) Sinclair. SP4:333 shows that Jean wasthe
    daughter of John, nephew of Walter (Sir) Haliburton and Dirleton, son ofSir
    Adam Haliburton who died in 1337. However, there is a correction inSP9:102,
    which says that John was the son, not the nephew of Walter (Sir) and thatJean,
    who married Henry St Clair, who was listed as John's daughter was placeda
    generation too low and was, in fact, the daughter of Walter (Sir). Asevidence
    supporting the correction, the compilers cite a 1388 charter which styled
    Henry St Clair, Earl of Orkney, as the brother of John (Sir) Haliburton.


    SP= THE SCOTS PEERAGE was edited by James (Sir) Balfour Paul

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth (of Orkney) Sinclair was born in 1376; and died.
    2. Henry (2nd Earl of Orkney) Sinclair died about 1418.
    3. Mary (of Orkney) Sinclair and died.
    4. 7. Beatrix Sinclair died before 8 Feb 1462.
    5. Jean (of Orkney) Sinclair and died.
    6. Helen (of Orkney) Sinclair and died.



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