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John (1st Earl of Moray) Dunbar[1]

Male Abt 1342 - Bef 1392  (~ 50 years)


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  • Name John (1st Earl of Moray) Dunbar 
    Born Abt 1342 
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 15 Feb 1392 
    Person ID I60895  My Genealogy

    Father Patrick (Sir) De Dunbar,   b. Abt 1320,   d. 1356  (Age ~ 36 years) 
    Mother Isabel (of Moray) Randolph,   d. Aft 20 Jul 1361 
    Family ID F18830  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Marjory (Princess of Scotland) Stuart,   b. Abt 1344,   d. Aft 6 May 1417  (Age ~ 73 years) 
    Married 11 Jul 1370 
    Children 
     1. Thomas (2nd Earl of Moray) Dunbar
     2. Alexander Dunbar
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2013 
    Family ID F15557  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • From Doug Hickling
      "JOHN DUNBAR, the second son, was created Earl of Moray in 1372. Hemarried Marjorie, a daughter of Robert, Earl of Strathearn, afterwardsKing Robert II, by his first wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Adam (Sir) Mureof Rowallan. He died before 15 February 1392 when their son John wasstyled Earl of Moray."

      Sometimes shown as the son of Black Agnes (of Moray) Randolph.
      However Doug Hickling has found otherwise as he says:

      "You list the mother of John (1st Earl of Moray) Dunbar as Black Agnes(of Moray) Randolph. In fact Black Agnes and her husband had no childrenand John (1st Earl of Moray) Dunbar was the son of Patrick (Sir) Dunbar,who married Isabella Randolph, who was Black Agnes'
      sister. Isabella (or Isobel or Isabel) Randolph and her sister Agneswere
      daughters of Thomas (Sir) Randolph, who became first Earl of Moray, andhis wife Isobel Stewart, daughter of John (Sir) Stewart of Bonkill byMargaret, heiress of Bonkhill. This is shown in SP 6:294-5. Thusneither of the Randolph sisters were descended from John/Thomas (3rd Earlof Moray Regent) Randolph and his spouse Euphemia de Ross. SP 6:295-7,says that Thomas, second Earl of Moray, left no issue and neither did hisbrother John, 3rd Earl of Moray. So, Euphemia had no children by him andlater married the man who became King Robert II and had children by him."

      SP refers to THE SCOTS PEERAGE was edited by James (Sir) Balfour Paul formore information see information received from Doug Hickling "THEANCESTRY OF MARGARET DUNBAR, WHO MARRIED ROBERT MUNRO, 14TH BARON OFFOULIS" in Notes under Margaret (of Cumnock) Dunbar

      For sources etc. see information received from Doug Hickling "THEANCESTRY OF MARGARET DUNBAR, WHO MARRIED ROBERT MUNRO, 14TH BARON OFFOULIS" in Notes under Margaret (of Cumnock) Dunbar

  • Sources 
    1. [S883] Hamish Maclaren.