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- At Stirnet Genealogy athttp://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/bb4ae/baillie1.htm
Balliols are shown as below
Guy de Baliol (a 1090)
1. Barnard de Baliol, 1st of Barnard Castle (a 1138)
m. Agnes de Pincheni
A. Eustace de Baliol of Barnard Castle
m. widow of Robert Fitzpiers
i. Hugh de Baliol of Barnard Castle (b c1189)
m. (c1215) Cecily de la Fontaine (b c1195, dau of Aleaume Fontaine)
a. John de Baliol of Barnard Castle (b c1212, d 12.10.1268-9)
m. (1233) Devorgilla of Galloway (d 28.01.1289-90, dau of Alan, Lord ofGalloway, Constable)
Devorgilla was a great-niece of the Scots Kings Malcolm IV and William'the Lion'. It was because of this connection that her son John becameentitled to claim the throne.
At Genealogy-Eu at
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/baliol.html#CA
Balliols are shown as below
The House of Baliol
This family descended from the Baliols of Normandy and establishedthemselves in England after the Norman Conquest in 1066. They were thesenior representatives of the claim to the Scottish throne after theextinction of the Dunkeld dynasty in 1286
One Renard de Bailleul, Sheriff of Shropshire, fl 1086,accompaniedWilliam the Conqueror in 1066; m.Amiera de Montgomery, niece of Roger IIde Montgomery, Earl of Shropshire
A1. Bernard I de Bailleul or de Baliol, builder of Barnard Castle, +after2.2.1141
B1. Bernard II de Baliol, 2nd Baron of Bywell, fl 1167, +1215
C1. Annabel de Baliol, mistress of Henry II of England, *1153, +31.3.1204
C2. Eustace de Baliol, 3rd Baron of Bywell, +ca 1215/20; m.widow ofRobert FizPiers
D1. Hugh de Baliol, 4th Baron of Bywell, +ca 1228; m.Cecilia de Fontaines
E1. John de Baliol, 5th Baron of Bywell and Barnard Castle, +soon before24.10.1268; m.1233 Devorguilla (*ca 1218, +28.1.1290), daughter andco-heiress of Alan, Lord of Galloway
- (Research):Description: I suggest not to use Stirnet as a source for the Balliol family or use with caution as they cite 2 sources of witch one source can no longer be found and the other source is the Lives of Baillies a source that stirnet is charging $ for that can be found for free with a google search i might ad and they say the info supports and Contradicts other sources. A Curator at Geni.com likes to use it for this Family and she has copied the same info to Wikipedia a site that should never be used for Ancestry of any kind as any one can change or edit the info It is known that the Baillies descend from this Balliol family the William de Baliol mentioned "8 LIVES OF THE BAILLIES" son of Alexander is also known as William Baillie l was born 1277 as this William had a son William Baillie the 2nd of Hoprig who married Elizabeth Wallace daughter of William Wallace People tend to get this William de Baliol/Baillie mixed up with The William de Baliol who frequently wrote his name William Balliol le Scot Just an example of why it should not be used as a only source or used with caution Stirnet source - Lives of Baillies below https://archive.org/stream/livesofbailliesd00bail/livesofbailliesd00bail_djvu.txt
Allan Scott
alscott@bell.net
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