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Violetta Or Margaret (of Glamis) Lyon

Violetta Or Margaret (of Glamis) Lyon

Female - Yes, date unknown

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Violetta Or Margaret (of Glamis) Lyon (daughter of John (3rd Lord Glamis) Lyon and Elizabeth (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour); and died.

    Violetta married Hugh (1st Lord Lovat) Fraser before 1464. Hugh (son of Thomas Or Hugh Sanctus (7th of Lovat) Fraser and Janet (of Moray) Dunbar) died between 1 Nov 1499 and 30 Apr 1501. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Thomas (2nd Lord Lovat) Fraser died on 21 Oct 1524.
    2. Hugh Fraser died on 9 Sep 1513 in Battle Of Flodden.
    3. Agnes (of Lovat) Fraser and died.
    4. Egida Jill Or Marjory (of Lovat) Fraser and died.
    5. Alexander Fraser and died.
    6. Margaret Fraser and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John (3rd Lord Glamis) Lyon was born in 1431 in Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. (son of Patrick (1st Baron Glamis) Lyon and Isabella Ogilvy); died on 1 Apr 1497 in Glamis, Forfar.

    Notes:

    "Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web" by Brian Tompsett athttp://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal30715

    "Lord Auditor of Parliament, Lord of the Council, Justice, Ambassador.
    The Complete Peerage vol.V,p.657."

    John married Elizabeth (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour before 1450. Elizabeth (daughter of John (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour and Isabella (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant) was born in 1435 in Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland; died before 20 Oct 1492. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Elizabeth (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour was born in 1435 in Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland (daughter of John (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour and Isabella (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant); died before 20 Oct 1492.
    Children:
    1. John (4th Lord of Glamis) Lyon was born in 1452; died in 1500.
    2. David (of Baky & Cossins) Lyon died on 9 Sep 1513 in Battle Foldden.
    3. William Lyon died on 9 Sep 1513 in Battle Of Flodden.
    4. George Lyon died on 9 Sep 1513 in Battle Of Flodden.
    5. Christian Lyon and died.
    6. Janet Lyon and died.
    7. Agnes Lyon and died.
    8. Margaret Lyon and died.
    9. Mariota Lyon and died.
    10. Elizabeth Lyon died in Dsp.
    11. 1. Violetta Or Margaret (of Glamis) Lyon and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Patrick (1st Baron Glamis) Lyon was born in 1402 in Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland (son of John (Sir) (2nd of Glamis) Lyon and Elizabeth (Anne) Graham); died on 21 Mar 1458-1459 in Belhelvies; was buried in Glamis.

    Notes:

    "Patrick (Sir) Lyon, Knight of Glamis Born 1402, Glamis, Angusshire,Scotland. [Circa James I] He was hostage to the English for the 1424ransom of King James, and was made 1st Lord Glamis and a peer ofParliament in 1455 after being released as hostage as Lord Glamis I.Master of King's household in 1452. III Lord of Kingborne. He marriedIsabella (Ogilvie) Ogilvy2, born 1406 in Linthrathen, Scotland. She diedin 1484. He died in March 21, 1459 in Bellhelvies.."

    This information is from Sandi Hartnell, (hartnellsl@attbi.com) who says"Most of the early stuff was compiled by my grandmother's twin sister,Mina Lyon Rife. She dated the material 1956. She did a lot of research,and attributed some of the material from a 3 volumes titled "LyonMemorial". She indicated they were purchased in Boston at Goodspeed BookStore. I visited Glamis Castle about 10 years ago and have guidebooksfrom there that had family information, and I also picked up someinformation from various web cites.

    See also under John de Lyon, born Bet. 1292 - 1319

    Patrick married Isabella OgilvyLinthrathen, Scotland. Isabella (daughter of Walter (Sir) (of Carcary & Lintrathen) Ogilvy and Isobel Glen) was born in 1406; died in 1484; was buried in Glamis. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Isabella Ogilvy was born in 1406 (daughter of Walter (Sir) (of Carcary & Lintrathen) Ogilvy and Isobel Glen); died in 1484; was buried in Glamis.

    Notes:

    Her other is sometimes listed as Duward. However
    From Doug Hickling
    "You list the mother of Isabella (or Isabel) Ogilvy, who married Patrick(1st
    Baron Glamis) Lyon, as a Durward. The better evidence is that she wasIsabel
    Glen, daughter of John (Sir) Glen of Inchmartin (sometimes shown as ofBalmuto)
    and Margaret Erskine. Margaret Erskine was the daughter of IsabelInchmartin
    and Allan (Sir) Erskine. Allan (Sir) was a younger son of William (Sir)Erskine
    (of Erskine). Isabel Inchmartin was the daughter of John (Sir) Inchmartinand
    Margaret Wemyss, who in turn was the daughter of David (Sir) Wemyss. SP4:16
    says that "Walter (Sir) Ogilvy of Auchlevyn and Desford was the eldestson of
    Walter (Sir) Ogilvy of Carcary and Lintrathen by his second wife Isobel,one of
    the three daughters and heirs-portioneers of John (Sir) Glen of Balmutoby his
    wife Margaret Erskine." The information on the Inchmartins comes from an
    article by Bruce McAndrew, who is considered very reliable, in theperiodical
    DOUBLE TRESSURE, No. 4 (1982) pp 2-10'

    Children:
    1. Alexander (2nd Baron Glamis) Lyon was born in 1429; died in 1486.
    2. 2. John (3rd Lord Glamis) Lyon was born in 1431 in Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland.; died on 1 Apr 1497 in Glamis, Forfar.
    3. Elizabeth (of Glamis) Lyon was born about 1425 in Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland; and died.

  3. 6.  John (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour (son of James (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrymgeour and Egida (of Pollock) Maxwell); died in 1465.

    Notes:

    (Sir John Scrymgeour of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee (d 1465 or before08.1463)
    m1. Katherine Ogilvy
    m2. Isabella Oliphant (dau of Sir William Oliphant of Aberdalgie)
    Isabella is identified by BLG1952 as mother of at least the first son.It is not certain that she was also the mother of the other sons. TSPdoes not ascribe any of the sons to any particular wife.
    (a) Sir James Scrymgeour of Glassary, later of Dudhope, Constable ofDundee (d 1478)
    m1. Jonet Lyon
    m2. Margaret Maitland
    ((1)) Sir James Scrymgeour of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee (d 1504) "

    From http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ss4as/scrymgeour01.htm atStirnet Genealogy

    John + Isabella (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant. Isabella (daughter of William (Sir) (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant and Isabel (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Isabella (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant (daughter of William (Sir) (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant and Isabel (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart); and died.
    Children:
    1. Sir James (of Dudhope) Scrymgeour died in 1478.
    2. 3. Elizabeth (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour was born in 1435 in Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland; died before 20 Oct 1492.
    3. Margaret (of Dudhope) Scrymgeour and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John (Sir) (2nd of Glamis) Lyon was born in 1380 in Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. (son of John (Sir) (of Foreviot & Glamis) Lyon and Jean Or Joan (Princess of Scotland) Stuart); died in 1435.

    John married Elizabeth (Anne) GrahamDundoff & Kinkarine, Scotland. Elizabeth (daughter of Patrick (Earl of Strathearn) Graham and Euphemia (Countess of Strathearn) Stewart) was born in 1334; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Elizabeth (Anne) Graham was born in 1334 (daughter of Patrick (Earl of Strathearn) Graham and Euphemia (Countess of Strathearn) Stewart); and died.
    Children:
    1. 4. Patrick (1st Baron Glamis) Lyon was born in 1402 in Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland; died on 21 Mar 1458-1459 in Belhelvies; was buried in Glamis.

  3. 10.  Walter (Sir) (of Carcary & Lintrathen) Ogilvy (son of Walter (Sir) (of Auchterhouse) Ogilvy and Isabel Ramsay); died in 1440.

    Walter + Isobel Glen. Isobel (daughter of John (Sir) (of Inchmartin & Balmuto) Glen and Margaret Erskine) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Isobel Glen (daughter of John (Sir) (of Inchmartin & Balmuto) Glen and Margaret Erskine); and died.
    Children:
    1. Walter (Sir) (of Auchlevyn & Deskford) Ogilvy died after 1440.
    2. David Ogilvy and died.
    3. Alexander Ogilvy and died.
    4. Patriick Ogilvy and died.
    5. George Ogilvy and died.
    6. Giles Ogilvy was born about 1418; and died.
    7. 5. Isabella Ogilvy was born in 1406; died in 1484; was buried in Glamis.

  5. 12.  James (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrymgeour (son of Alexander (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour and Agnes of Glassary); died on 24 Jul 1411 in Battle Of Harlaw.

    James + Egida (of Pollock) Maxwell. Egida (daughter of John (Sir) (of Pollock) Maxwell and Daughter Montgomerie) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Egida (of Pollock) Maxwell (daughter of John (Sir) (of Pollock) Maxwell and Daughter Montgomerie); and died.
    Children:
    1. 6. John (Sir) (of Dudhope) Scrimgeour died in 1465.

  7. 14.  William (Sir) (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant (son of John (Sir) (of of Aberdalgie) Oliphant); and died.

    William + Isabel (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart. Isabel (daughter of Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart and Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Isabel (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart (daughter of Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart and Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal); and died.
    Children:
    1. John (Sir) (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant died on 23 Jan 1445-1446.
    2. 7. Isabella (of Aberdalgie) Oliphant and died.



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