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Alexander (of Lonmay of Drum) Irvine

Alexander (of Lonmay of Drum) Irvine

Male Abt 1515 - 1547  (~ 32 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Alexander (of Lonmay of Drum) Irvine was born about 1515 (son of Alexander (7Th of Drum) Irvine and Janet Allardyce); died on 9 Sep 1547 in Battle Of Pinkie.

    Alexander married Elizabeth (of Findlater) Ogilvy in 1526. Elizabeth (daughter of Alexander (of Deskford & Findlater) Ogilvy and Elizabeth Gordon) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Alexander (8th of Drum) Irvine died in 1603.
    2. William (of Ardlofie) Irvine and died.
    3. Robert (of Tillylair) Irvine and died.
    4. Gilbert (of Colairlie) Irvine and died.
    5. James (Sir) Irvine died in 1596.
    6. John Irvine and died.
    7. Janet Irvine and died.
    8. Elizabeth (of Lonmay) Irving and died.
    9. Margaret Irvine and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Alexander (7Th of Drum) Irvine was born about 1492 (son of Alexander (Sir) (6th of Drum) Irvine and Janet (of Inverugie) Keith); died after 12 Feb 1554.

    Alexander married Janet Allardyce on 12 Jun 1493. Janet (daughter of John (of That Ilk) Allardyce and Catherine Arbuthnott) was born about 1490; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Janet Allardyce was born about 1490 (daughter of John (of That Ilk) Allardyce and Catherine Arbuthnott); and died.
    Children:
    1. Margaret Irvine and died.
    2. 1. Alexander (of Lonmay of Drum) Irvine was born about 1515; died on 9 Sep 1547 in Battle Of Pinkie.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Alexander (Sir) (6th of Drum) Irvine (son of Alexander (5th of Drum) Irvine and Elizabeth Marion Forbes); died before 4 Dec 1572.

    Alexander married Janet (of Inverugie) Keith before 1475. Janet (daughter of Sir Gilbert (3rd of Inverugie) Keith and Janet Graham) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Janet (of Inverugie) Keith (daughter of Sir Gilbert (3rd of Inverugie) Keith and Janet Graham); and died.
    Children:
    1. 2. Alexander (7Th of Drum) Irvine was born about 1492; died after 12 Feb 1554.
    2. Elizabeth (Mary) Irvine and died.
    3. Elspeth Irvine was born about 1488; and died.
    4. Gilbert Irvine and died.

  3. 6.  John (of That Ilk) Allardyce was born about 1445; and died.

    John married Catherine Arbuthnott in 1473. Catherine (daughter of Robert (10th of that Ilk) Arbuthnott and Giles Ogilvy) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Catherine Arbuthnott (daughter of Robert (10th of that Ilk) Arbuthnott and Giles Ogilvy); and died.
    Children:
    1. 3. Janet Allardyce was born about 1490; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Alexander (5th of Drum) Irvine (son of Alexander (Yr of Drum) Irvine and Abernethy); died in Dec 1493.

    Alexander + Elizabeth Marion Forbes. Elizabeth (daughter of Alexander 1st Baron Forbes and Elizabeth (of Angus) Douglas) was born about 1429; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Elizabeth Marion Forbes was born about 1429 (daughter of Alexander 1st Baron Forbes and Elizabeth (of Angus) Douglas); and died.
    Children:
    1. 4. Alexander (Sir) (6th of Drum) Irvine died before 4 Dec 1572.
    2. Agnes (of Drum) Irvine and died.
    3. Henry (of Kingcausie) Irvine was born about 1436; died after 1548.
    4. Richard (of Craigtown) Irvine and died.

  3. 10.  Sir Gilbert (3rd of Inverugie) Keith was born about 1418 (son of Keith); died about 1494.

    Notes:

    "It seems clear that Gilbert Keith's first marriage was to ______Ogstoun, heiress of Ludquharn, as it was through her that Sir Gilbert became the owner of Ludquharn. The principal source of information onSir Gilbert's family is Sir Robert Douglas's BARONAGE OF SCOTLAND (1798),at l73. He says that Sir Gilbert and his first wife had four sons:
    (1) Sir William (of Inverugie), his heir;
    (2) John who was given Ludquharn byhis father, but who died without issue so that estate went to the nextson;
    (3) Andrew, from whom descended the Keiths of Inverugie; and
    (4) Gilbert, who was given the lands of Pelcock in the barony of Kelley.

    Although Douglas mentions Sir Gilbert's second marriage, this one to Janet Graham, he says, erroneously, that there were no surviving issue by this marriage. I think it quite possible, and even likely, that,although Sir Gilbert did marry the heiress of Ogstoun, all of his children were by his second wife. Sir Gilbert and Janet Graham were married before 16 June 1455, the date of a bond of relief by her father to cautioners for her tocher. William Keith, identified as Sir Gilbert's son and heir apparent, together with his wife Janet Dunbar, received a crown charter on 31 March 1476. If this grant was made because of the grantees' recent marriage, as was often the case, William may well have been Janet Graham's son in view of her marriage to Sir Gilbert sometime before June 1455. It is difficult to believe that Sir Gilbert had nothing but daughters by his second wife and nothing but sons by his first spouse.

    The article in Douglas's BARONAGE states that Gilbert Keith, the youngest son of Sir Gilbert, was given Pelcock in 1487, by a charter witnessed by his three older brothers. On that date John, the second son, was still alive, but he had not yet been given Ludquharn. In 1492, John having died, the estate of Ludquharn was given to Andrew Keith, the third son. The dividing up by Sir Gilbert of his estates among his sons suggests that they were relatively young men when they witnessed the 1487 charter and that most, if not all, of the sons were children by Janet Graham. Sir Robert Douglas in his BARONAGE referred to a 1490 charter identifying Janet Graham as Sir Gilbert's spouse. I suspect that, had he known of the 1455 bond relief on Janet's tocher, Douglas would have assigned Janet as the mother of all of Sir Gilbert's children.

    Sir Gilbert Keith and Janet Graham are known to have had at least three daughters. You correctly show two of them: Elizabeth and Janet, but I suggest that you add Helen to the list. According to R. J. Adam in his THE CALENDAR OF FEARN: TEXT AND ADDITIONS, 1471-1667, published by the Scottish History Society in 1991, at 87, 93-94, Helen was a daughter of Gilbert Keith of Inverugy and she married David Ross, 7th of Balnagown. John Ross, 5th of Balnagown, resigned Balnagown in 1488, "in associationwith Gilbert Keith," to his grandson David Ross. In 1490, John Rossresigned all his lands to the crown for regrant to David, and Easter Rarechie and Cullisse were separately granted to David and Helen Keith,showing that the grantees were married in or before 1490. R. J. Adam says that it appears that John had made over the fee of Balnagown to hisson Alexander Ross, 6th of Balnagown, before the latter's untimely death at Aldecharwis in 1487, making it necessary to quickly arrange a protective marriage for David. Helen was probably born no earlier than 1470, meaning that she was clearly a child of Gilbert's marriage to Janet Graham. THE CALENDAR OF FEARN records Helen's death in May 1520. Through her marriage to Sir David Ross, Helen became an ancestor of the subsquent lairds of Balnagown as well as of the Rosses of Tollie/Achnacloich.

    "Altlhough Janet Graham's death date is not recorded, she was still alive on 7 May 1491, when she and her husband Gilbert Keith of Inverugy received a crown charter. RMS: 2030. According to SP 3: 565, Margaret (of Erroll) Hay married Sir Gilbert Keith, as her second husband, after 1486, that being the year in which her first husband Alexander Fraser, fourth of Philorth, died. Since Janet Graham was still married to Sir Gilbert on 7 May 1491, it is clear that Margaret Hay's marriage to himcould not have occurred until after that date and it seems unlikely that they had issue. Margaret subsequently married Robert Douglas of Lochleven circa 1500.

    The more recent sources of information on the Ogston family are A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE FAMILIES OF OGSTON, by Alexander Ogston,printed in 1876, and the same author's SUPPLEMENT to that work, printed in 1897. Neither compilation claims that Sir Gilbert and his Ogston wife had any children, and the earlier work says that their marriage occurred about 1470, a date which clearly cannot be supported in view of the fact that Sir Gilbert had by that time been married to Janet Graham for at least 15 years. If Alexander Ogston is off by at least 15 years on the date of the Ogstoun-Keith marriage, one cannot rely on either of his compilations, especially his speculation as to the bride's origins. "

    Douglas Hickling
    Dhhic@comcast.com
    516 Blair Avenue
    Piedmont CA 94611
    (August 2003)

    (Research):The Scots Peerage, Vol 2, p337, says that Mary, who married William Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Caithness, was the daughter of Sir William Keith of Inverugie.

    However, if you look at manuscripts.nls.uk/repositories/2/archival_objects/6100 there is an entry that says:
    "Indenture between William, 1st Earl of Caithness and his son, and Sir Gilbert Keith of Inverugie and Mary his daughter, 26 July 1477." which suggests that she was actually the daughter of Sir Gilbert Keith of Inverugie.

    Gilbert married Janet Graham before 16 Jun 1455. Janet (daughter of Patrick 1st Lord Graham and Christian (of Mar) Erskine) was born about 1440; died after 7 May 1491. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Janet Graham was born about 1440 (daughter of Patrick 1st Lord Graham and Christian (of Mar) Erskine); died after 7 May 1491.
    Children:
    1. William (of Inverugie) Keith died after 24 May 1521.
    2. John (of Ludquharn) Keith died before 1492 in Dsp.
    3. Andrew (of Ludquharn) Keith died before 1500.
    4. Gilbert (of Pelcock) Keith and died.
    5. Elizabeth (of Inverugie) Keith was born about 1478; and died.
    6. 5. Janet (of Inverugie) Keith and died.
    7. Helen (of Inverugie) Keith was born after 1470; died in May 1520.

  5. 14.  Robert (10th of that Ilk) Arbuthnott was born about 1414 (son of Hugh (9th of that Ilk) Arbuthnott and Margaret Keith); died in 1450.

    Robert + Giles Ogilvy. Giles (daughter of Walter (Sir) (of Carcary & Lintrathen) Ogilvy and Isobel Glen) was born about 1418; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Giles Ogilvy was born about 1418 (daughter of Walter (Sir) (of Carcary & Lintrathen) Ogilvy and Isobel Glen); and died.
    Children:
    1. David (11th of That Ilk) Arbuthnott died in 1470.
    2. 7. Catherine Arbuthnott and died.
    3. 5 Sons Arbuthnott and died.



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