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Duncan (1st of Newliston) (Lord Lyon) Dundas

Duncan (1st of Newliston) (Lord Lyon) Dundas

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Duncan (1st of Newliston) (Lord Lyon) Dundas (son of Sir James (of That Ilk) 11th of Dundas and Christian (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart); and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Sir James (of That Ilk) 11th of Dundas (son of John (of That Ilk) Dundas); died in Jan 1429-1430.

    Notes:

    In later years Dundas of Dundas argued that James Dundas 11th of Dundas, had had a first wife, (whose name has never been discovered) and by whom he had provided three sons, namely, James, Archibald and Duncan and that by his second wife, Christian, he had two further sons, i.e.; Alexander and Thomas) and therefore Archibald was successor to James Dundas as chief of the clan. The Dundas' of Fingask argued that no proof of a previous marriage existed and that James Dundas was in fact the eldest son of Christian Stewart and James. Either way, it is known that when James died, his brother carried on the main line of Dundas of Dundas. The Dundas' of Dundas claim that James died childless. The Dundas' of Fingask claim that James did in fact have a son, by the name of Alexander who although he inherited the lands of Fingask, he should also have been head of Dundas of Dundas, but was too young and his rightful inheritance was seized by his uncle. Whether on James' death, Archibald seized the inheritance which rightly belonged to James Dundas' youngest son or whether James died childless, so Archibald succeeded by right as next heir, has never been proven beyond doubt. We do know however, that from this time dates the separation of the lands of Dundas and Fingask and that they were never again held by the same hand).

    In 1380, James Dundas obtained a new charter from King Robert 11 of the lands and barony of Fingask. He also obtained in 1397 a new charter from Baron Winchburgh of the lands of Dundas. Another charter dated 28/2/1416 grants to James Dundas the lands of Easter-Blairmucks. In the following March, James obtained from Robert Duke of Albany who was then Governor of Scotland during King James 1 absence in England, a licence to rebuild and fortify Dundas Castle. For his greater security in these troubled times, James Dundas resigned his lands of Dundas and took a new charter in favour of his son (also called James Dundas), reserving to himself the liferent of same and to Christian Stewart, his wife, granting and ordaining her, peaceably at her pleasure to abide in the tower of Dundas after the decease of her husband. This charter is dated at Seaton, 30th November 1423. Upon King James 1 return from England, his Majesty granted James Dundas a confirmation of the licence to build the tower of Dundas, dated the 25th May 1424.
    Calendar of the Laing charters: 30/4/1417. Charter by William of Melgdrum, laird of Clesch granting to James Dundas of that ilk, the lands of Craigtoun in the tenement of Philpston, in the barony of Abercorn and constabulary of Linlithgow, to be held by the granter and his heirs of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, under reversion to be redeemed for the sum of ?40 Scots, payable in the parish church of Dunmanin (Dalmeny).

    A licence was granted by the Governor Albany to James Dundas of Dundas, " to build fortify and erect in height his tower at Dundas in form of a castle, and to fortify and surround it with walls and ditches as he pleased, and to have in it a constable, porter, and other keepers necessary, vested with the same power as any other constable, or others, have in any castle within Scotland." Dated 3 March 1416. Another similar licence by King James I. is dated in 1424, and empowers the said James Dundas to turn his tower or fortalice of Dundas into the form of a castle.

    Charter dated the 24th May 1429 by King James 1 to James Dundas of that ilk of barony of Fyngask, following on resignation thereof to the crown, now to be held by him and heirs male of himself and Christian Stewart, his spouse, whom failing his nearest lawful heirs, under reddendo of 1d. silver yearly.

    James Dundas of Dundas, founded and endowed a house of the Carmelite order at South Queensferry, and there is a Confirmation by George Lord Seton, Baron of the Barony of Winchburgh, confirming a Charter by him dated 1 March 1444, giving to God and the blessed Virgin Mary and the brethren of the order of Mount Carmel and their successors, a piece of ground lying in the town of the ferry (now South Queensferry), with the yard and green adjacent to the Church of the Virgin Mary and whole houses erected there in form of a monastery.

    James + Christian (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart. Christian (daughter of Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart and Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Christian (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart (daughter of Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart and Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal); and died.
    Children:
    1. James (12th of Dundas) Dundas died before 1452 in Dsp.
    2. Christian Dundas and died.
    3. Archibald (13th of Dundas) Dundas and died.
    4. Alexander (of Fingask) Dundas died in 1451.
    5. 1. Duncan (1st of Newliston) (Lord Lyon) Dundas and died.
    6. Beatrix Dundas and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John (of That Ilk) Dundas (son of James De Dundas); and died.
    Children:
    1. 2. Sir James (of That Ilk) 11th of Dundas died in Jan 1429-1430.

  2. 6.  Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart (son of Sir Robert (of Innermeath) Stewart); died on 26 Apr 1421.

    John married Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal in 1388. Isabella (daughter of Ewen\Eoin (5th Lord of Lorn) Macdougal and Joan De Isaac) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 7.  Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal (daughter of Ewen\Eoin (5th Lord of Lorn) Macdougal and Joan De Isaac); and died.
    Children:
    1. Robert (1st Lord of Lorn) Stewart died in 1449.
    2. Archibald Stewart and died.
    3. Sir James (Black Knight of Lorn) Stewart died in 1448.
    4. Alexander Stewart and died.
    5. William Stewart and died.
    6. 3. Christian (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart and died.
    7. Jean (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart and died.
    8. Isabel (of Innermeath & Durrisdeer) Stewart and died.
    9. Daughter Sir John (of Innermeath& Lorn) Stewart and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  James De Dundas (son of George (Sir) De Dundas); died before 1364.
    Children:
    1. 4. John (of That Ilk) Dundas and died.

  2. 12.  Sir Robert (of Innermeath) Stewart (son of Sir James (of Pierston) Stewart); died about 1387.
    Children:
    1. 6. Sir John (of Innermeath, Lord of Lorn) Stewart died on 26 Apr 1421.
    2. Katherine (of Innermeath) Stewart and died.
    3. Sir Robert (Laird of Durrisdeer) Stewart died on 21 Jul 1403 in Battle Of Shrewsbury.

  3. 14.  Ewen\Eoin (5th Lord of Lorn) Macdougal (son of Sir John\Eoin (5th of Dunollie) Macdougal); died before 1388.

    Ewen\Eoin + Joan De Isaac. Joan (daughter of Thomas (Sir) De Isaac and Matilda (Princess) Bruce) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Joan De Isaac (daughter of Thomas (Sir) De Isaac and Matilda (Princess) Bruce); and died.
    Children:
    1. 7. Isabella (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal and died.
    2. Janet (De Ergadia) (of Lorn) Macdougal and died.



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