Notes:

Death: 11 DEC 1872 in Blue Rock Twp., Muskingum Co., Ohio 3 4
Military Service: BET 10 AUG 1813 AND 8 MAY 1815 Served in the War of1812 in the 16th Pennsylvania Infantry, 2nd Brigade.
Title: Record of Deaths, Probate Court, Muskingum Co., Ohio
Title: Pension File, War of 1812 for Henry Gay, Jr.
Title: War of 1812 Pensioners
Title: Record of Deaths, Probate Court, Muskingum Co., Ohio
Page: pg. 166.
Text: Microfilm of original probate records obtained at the Stark Co.Library June 2004.
Title: Muskingum County Ohio Marriages 1803-1818
Page: pg. 23

1850 & 1860 Federal Census's For Muskingum County
1). NOTE: In the 1850 Census for Ohio, Henry and his wife Mary wereboth listed as being born in Pennsylvania, but in the 1860 census theentire family is listed as from Ohio. In Elizabeth's obituary thereis no indication as to parents nativity or names. Only her brotherHenry is mentioned as surviving her as well as some of her children.It is likely that Henry Jr. & Mary were both from Pennsylvaniaoriginally, and the children were born in Ohio. Having said that, itwould seem that Catharine is listed as their oldest being born in Ohioin the year 1827/28. This would put Henry Jr. & Mary in Ohio justprior to 1827/28 probably.
2). NOTE: According to both of the federal census year of 1860, HenryJr. Gay was "renting". There is no indication that he owned land inthe census. There is a land purchase: PROP: 8 NOV 1853 Land documentshowing the purchase of land in Muskingum Co. by Henry Gay from JonGibbons sourced by K. Richardson however. If Henry Sr. lived to be109 years old, it may be possible that the land was actually purchasedby him also. This is not verifiable one way or the other at present.
3). NOTE: Another thing that is noted is that Mary's age didn'tchange from the 1850 to the 1860 census, and that Henry is listed witha different age than you would expect, BUT the children's ages are aswould be expected.
Example:
Henry Sr.'s age in the 1850 census was 66; in the 1860 census he waslisted as 80, not as 76.
Mary's age in the 1850 census was 45; in the 1860 census she waslisted as 45, not as 55.
Yet the children's ages were appropriate in 1860 with the added 10years for the census.

SOURCE: ID: I1470; Chandler & Ritter Families; Dr. Hubert ThomasChandler;
E-mail: htchandler@earthlink.net
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=htchandler&id=I1470&printer_friendly
"Name: Henry Gay , Jr.
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1791 in Frederick Co., MD 1
Death: 11 DEC 1872 in Muskingum Co., OH 2
Note: In the 1850 census, Henry declares PA as state of birth. Thismay be true since his father lived near the MD/PA state line and moveda number of times. Since Henry's age is listed in the census as age 66(wife 45) we can estimate his birth year as about 1784.Henry is listedin Salt Creek Township, Muskingum County, Ohio census of 1860 and BlueRock Township, Muskingum County, Ohio census of 1870." NOTE: Theabove author gives the names of several more children previouslyunknown to this compiler, William, George, Joseph, and Jacob.[Transcribed 26 July 2008, SLJuhl, Compiler]

*Henry married Mary Polly Derwater Daruater Duerrwaechter on 7 Jul 1825 in Muskingum County, Ohio. Mary (daughter of Jacob Derwater Daruater Duerrwaechter) was born in 1805 in 1850 Census States Pennsylvania; died after 1845 in Possibly Muskingum County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=htchandler&id=I1662;Obtained: 26 July 2008; Permission of Author: Dr. H. Thomas Chandler,E-Mail htchandler@earthlink.net; See Notes of Henry Sr. Gay forpersonal correspondence between this compiler and author.
"Mary (sometimes called Polly) Derwater was the wife of Henry Gay, Jr.It should be noted that Mary's surname is spelled several differentways on various documents. In the Muskingum County GenealogicalSociety Marriages 1803-1818, is named Polly Derwater. In her daughterJulia's Muskingum Co. death certificate, Muskingum Co. DeathCertificate her mother's maiden name was declared to be Derwacter. InHenry Gay, Jr.'s 1812 pension papers she is called Polly Dewater andMary Darwacter. In U.S. census documents after 1850 her given name islisted as Mary in 1850, 1860 & 1870. In the 1880 census she was listedas Polly Gay.
Mary was married in Muskingum Co., OH in 1825. A census search for herparents showed no similar sounding names in 1820, however in the 1830census a Jacob, Daruater, Jr. was found. The age listed wasappropriate that he could be her brother. For this reason, it issurmised that her father's name was Jacob, Daruater (Senior).Information from a file found in the Zanesville, OH library has nowestablished that Jacob, Jr was her brother and Jacob, Sr. was herfather. The original spelling of the surname was Duerrwaechter.
It should be noted that information on some of Mary/Polly'sdocumentation and most of her descendants was contributed by adescendant Kandy Richardson of Canton, OH." [Transcribed 26 July2008, SLJuhl, Compiler, sljuhl1234@yahoo.com]

Notes:

Married:
A Family Source: Mrs. Kandace Richardson of Ohio has listed fourother children, George, William, Joseph, and Jacob Gay. They are notin the early 1850 or 1860 census records with the family. However,Mrs. Richardson may have a good source for these children. You cancontact her through the Internet genealogy web site, www.Rootsweb.comfrom the WorldConnect Project by entering one of the names on thisfamily in the search area. This will locate that person for you aswell as give you the contributor and their e-mail address. Thiscompiler will not give out information on living individuals. Youmust contact the contributing sources yourself for verifications.SLJuhl, Compiler, sljuhl1234@yahoo.com

Notes:

"Birth: ABT 7 MAR 1745 in Abson, Gloucester, England 1
Military Service: 1776 Served in the Revolutionary War in the MarylandLine under Capt. Price.
Note: Copies of documents relating to Henry's military service andlife in America are on file at the DAR library in Washington, D.C.
The following was taken from "The Biographical and Portrait Album ofSedgewick Co., Kansas" printed in 1888. The biography is about theRev. George Gay who was the son of William who was the son of Henry.

"The boyhood years of Mr. Gay (George) were spent in HuntingtonCounty, Pennsylvania. He was born on the site of Altoona, on thePennsylvania railroad, where his birth took place on the 8th of March,1816. He was the second in a family of six children born to Williamand Margaret (Schmidt) Gay, the father a native of Maryland and themother of German extraction, her ancestors having lived along theclassic Rhine. The paternal grandfather, Henry Gay, who married MissHannah Hendricks in his early manhood, was an Englishman by birth andpatentage, and emigrated to the United States in time to carry amusket during the Revolutionary War: later he served in the War of1812 as a member of a calvary regiment. He was quite well advanced inyears, and was one-hundred-and-nine at the time of his death, whichtook place in Muskingum County, Ohio. Grandmother Gay was of Irishextraction, and born in the City of Cork. She survived her husband afew years and also died in Muskingum County, Ohio. "

The following information is contributed by Dr. H. Thomas Chandler:"My information about Henry's life before America moves backward fromthe information that (per Public Record Office, London) Henry wassentenced to be transported to the American Colonies for a period of 7years. The trial took place in Berkshire Co., England in the summer of1764. In a listing from "The Complete Book of Emigrants 1607-1776 asfound on FTM CD #350, it says "Gay, Henry. Sentenced to transportation1764. Gloucestershire."

The Vital Records Index-British Isles (1538-1888) FHL #1596177, listsa Henry Gay as being christened on March 7, 1745 in Abson, Gloucester,England. In Revolutionary War pension papers filed in Muskingum Co. in1833 by Henry Gay, Sr. he states his age as being 92 as near as he canrecollect, which would have him born in 1741. Given Henry's advancedage at the time of the filing, it would seem likely that the Henry Gayfound in the Vital Records index is the same.
I have been unable to find a listing for Henry's death in MuskingumCo., which obviously occured after 1833, or any listing for agravestone. If we believe the Biographical account above and given abirth year of 1845, Henry would have died about 1854 and his wifeseveral years later. No documentation can be found to support this.
There have been several references by other researchers stating thatHenry, Sr. served in the War of 1812. I beleive this inaccuracy maystem from Henry's Revolutionary War pension papers where he statesthat he was "discharged the first time I enlisted at Philadelphia byCapt. Price. I was Discharged the last time by Capt. Josua Ceoc atBaltimore." I beleive that both of these discharges are in relation tothe Revolutionary War and do not indicate service in both theRevolutionay and the War of 1812. Again, if we beleive the birth yearof 1745, Henry would have been 67 in 1812. Although it is possiblethat he may have seved at that age, I find it highly unlikely. I alsobelieve that there may be some confusion in that Henry Sr.'s son HenryJr. served in the War of 1812 as is evidenced from the pension papersfiled by Henry Jr. in 1871 in Muskingum Co., Ohio." Source: KandaceRichardson, direct descendant. [Transcribed 18 July 2006, SLJuhl,compiler]

From: Hubert Chandler
Date: 7/26/2008 8:33:04 AM
To: gsjuhl@peoplepc.com
Subject: Elmer Blackson Family
"Hi Sandy,
I only have one connection to the Blackson line - the marriage of JohnAllen Blackson to Betsy Elizabeth Gay 16 May 1861 in Muskingum Co, OH.Betsy is not in my direct lineage, but her grandfather Henry Gay bornin Abson, Gloucerster England is direct ancestor to both of us. OldHenry had 2 sons that we know of. One was George Gay - my directancestor and brother of Henry Gay, Jr., - Betsy?s father and directancestor. If you have not read about - I call him (old) Henry Gay, Isuggest you look at my GEDCOM at the URL listed in my signature blockbelow. It is a World connect URL and is searchable. The notes sectionsof some names contains an interesting background. Old Henry wastransported from England (do not know why) and fought in theRevolution against the British. He was wounded, was taken prisoner andlater escaped to fight again. He also fought in the War of 1812. Muchof his history is found in his file at the DAR library in Washington,D.C. Your son is a direct descendant of old Henry.
My data base also contains some interesting background notes aboutMary Derwater, Betsy?s mother.
My GEDCOM tells me (I do not remember the source, but probably censusdata) that Betsy was married to John Allen Blackson and they had a son(one of 9 children) named Elmer Elsworth Blackson, b. 25 March 1871.I hope I have helped. If you spot anything of interest in my GEDCOMand want a copy, let me know.
I am called Tom, but that is from my middle name Thomas. I am listedin my data base as Hubert Thomas Chandler.
Dr. H. Thomas Chandler
E-Mail htchandler@earthlink.net
World Connect/Rootsweb data base:
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~htchandler" [Transcribed26 July 2008, SLJuhl, Compiler, sljuhl1234@yahoo.com]

http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~htchandler; Informationgathered: 26 July 2008.
"Henry Gay arrived in America after 1764. Information about Henry'slife before America moves backward from the information that (perPublic Record Office, London) Henry was sentenced to be transported tothe American Colonies for a period of 7 years. The trial took place inBerkshire Co., England in the summer of 1764. In a listing from theThe Complete Book of Emigrants 1607-1776" as found on FTM CD #350, itsays of Gay, Henry. Sentenced to transportation 1764.Gloucestershire".
The CD set of Vital Records Index British Isles (1538-1888) which ispublished by the LDS Church, shows a listing for a Henry Gay (the onlyHenry listed in the CD for 5 years before and after 1745) and hisChristening. It was dated 7 Mar 1745 in Abson, Gloucester, England,and his father was Robert Gay and his mother was Betty. The Source waslisted as FLH Number 1596177 dates 1600-1812.
Henry Gay was sentenced to be transported to the American Colonies fora period of seven years. The trial took place in the summer of 1764;Berkshire Co., England. Other records show his transportation was fromGloucester in 1764.
Henry Gay applied for a benefit based on his military service and theprovisions of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. Henry appliedfor the benefit from his home in Muskingum County, Ohio in 1833. Itshould be noted that Henry was over 90 years old and illiterate. Thefacts recorded in support of his application were written by a countyclerk as Henry told them. There can be little doubt that the facts maybe somewhat distorted by time and memory, but they do serve as aframework to guide fact confirmation from other records.
In his deposition, Henry said that at that time (18 Nov 1833), to thebest of his recollection, he was born in 1741 and that he was 92 yearsold. He said that he enlisted in the army of the United States in 1776for a period of 3 years and eight months. He entered the army fromFrederick, MD and was discharged in Philadelphia. He was at the battleof Brandywine, and was taken prisoner at the battle of German town andtransported to NY where he escaped. He was later in the battle ofMonmoth. He was wounded during the War.
Henry further stated that he enlisted a second time from Frederick MD(War of 1812) and was discharged from Baltimore.
At the time (1833) of his deposition, Henry said it had been 32 or 33years since he moved from Frederick Maryland to a place called theCove near McConnelstown (he thought it was in Bedford County, PA). Helived there for 18 years. He moved from the Cove to the State of Ohioin to Salt Creek Township and had at that time of the deposition livedthere for 12 or 13 years. One of the witnesses in support of Henry's(Sr.) application was his son Henry, Jr." [Transcribed 26 July 2008,SLJuhl, Compiler, sljuhl1234@yahoo.com]

*Henry married Judy Silverin on 4 Dec 1779 in Frederick County, Maryland. Judy was born about 1745 in Unknown At Present; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=htchandler&id=I1662;Obtained: 26 July 2008; Permission of Author: Dr. H. Thomas Chandler,E-Mail htchandler@earthlink.net; See Notes of Henry Sr. Gay forpersonal correspondence between this compiler and author. It shouldbe noted that information on some of Mary/Polly's documentation andmost of her descendants was contributed by a descendant KandyRichardson of Canton, OH." [Transcribed 26 July 2008, SLJuhl,Compiler, sljuhl1234@yahoo.com]

Notes:

Source:
1. Title: LDS Vital Records Index-British Isles CD FHL number1596177 as provided by Mrs. Kandace Richardson of Ohio.

*Robert married Betty about 1736 in Probably Gloucester County, England. was born about 1699 in Unknown At Present; Probably England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]