Family/Spouse: Capt. John Paine. John and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Daughter Paine

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I have two Benjamins m. Mary Paine - probably the same person. Both sons of John Vail but differing mothers.
Both John's are possible parents so needs investigation. (JTC)
Refugee from Southhold to Guilford, CT. In Sept and Oct., 1776, with 11 passengers and goods, he was brought over by Capt. David Landon. He is mentioned as Capt. of a ship (Page 239). In 1776, he sold the sloop "Polly" to Samuel Brown of Guilford; Brown loaned the sloop to Capt. David Landon, and the latter brought 237 refugees, and their effects from L.I. to CT. In Oct. 1776, he brought other of his goods over, along with Ebenezer Jennings. In Apr., 1780, he asked leave to return to L.I. with his family; which was granted. On May 8, 1780, he asked leave to return with his family, effects and stock; which was granted.
Census of 1776: Males - above 16 years, 2; under 16, 4. Females-above 16, 2; under 16, 3.

Benjamin married Mary Paine on 16 Dec 1731. Mary (daughter of Prob. John Paine and Jemima Alsop) was born in 1706; died on 2 Oct 1788. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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A private record kept by William Salmon of Southold from 1698 to 1750 affords the only available marriage and death dates for many of the early residents of Southold. It is known as the Salmon Record and is in the possession of Mr. N. Hubbard Cleveland.

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Married:
The will of Benjamin Vail of Goshen, Orange Co., NY bears date July 13, 1782, and was probated November 8, 1784. It is recorded in NY Wills, Liber 37, p.309. He names children, William, John, Mary, Benjamin, and Lydia. Grandchildren Lydia, dau. of John and grandson Alsop.

John + Grace (Brocket?). Grace was born in 1666; died in 1751. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Prob. + Jemima Alsop. Jemima and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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http://genforum.genealogy.com/vail/messages/202.html:
"Jeremiah Vail is reputed to be the brother of Thomas Vail who married Sarah Wentworth. As far as I know, and most well versed Vail family researchers will also tell you, is that no conclusive evidence has presented itself to prove this brotherly connection. All the same, it is commonly agreed that this line is the truth. " (Robert Simon Vail III).

http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/pageload.cgi?orange::vail::292. html
I have a Thomas Vail Born 1613 in Southwold,Suffolk, Eng. Died 1687/88 in Westchester, Bronx, NY. Married Sarah Wentworth 1650. Father Jeremiah Vail and Mother Abigail. Son Thomas b. 1662 in of east Chester, Orange, NY. Another son Thomas b.1664 of East Chester, Orange, NY. There is also another, Rev. Thomas Vail of Topeka KS. I will searce that out and get back with you. I have it but not handy right now (Leatha Garner).

Sources and Resources (from Taylor's web page):
Genealogy of the Vail Family Descended from Jeremiah Vail - Henry H. Vail, 1902
Thomas Vail of Salem, Mass 1640 - Wm Penn Vail, 1937
Moses Vail of Huntington, Long Island - Wm Penn Vail, 1947
These genealogies may be found at larger libraries, possibly on LDS microfilm, or can be purchased. See the booksellers at Cyndi's List (try Higginsons and Alton booksellers)
TAG 38:183. - Gives identity of Mary (Folger) Paine Vail.

Other Vail Immigrants (Taylor):
Thomas Vail of Southampton > Westchester - Probable brother to Jeremiah. In 1640 when Thomas Vail with his wife Sarah came to Salem, Massachusetts, Jeremiah Vail was living there, having come in 1639. Jeremiah and Thomas emigrated to the eastern part of Long Island, Jeremiah to Southold, and Thomas to Southampton. Both were blacksmiths by trade.

George Vail did not exist! - there was no George Vail of Huntington, Long Island, as reported by an early Vail genealogy. Moses Vail, of that old genealogy, is son of Joseph, son of immigrant Thomas (who was probably brother to immigrant Jeremiah.) George Vail never existed and is a complete fabrication. See "Genealogy of Moses Vail of Huntington, L.I.: Showing his Descent from Joseph Vail, son of Thomas Vail of Salem, Massachusetts", 1640, by William Penn Vail, 1947. (Contributed by Oronoco98@aol.com)

James Vail - reported by Savage in New England Dictionary: "James Vail: Dedham, by w. Ann had James, bapt. 6 July 1656; John, 17 Oct. 1658". His relationship to Jeremiah of Long Island, if any, is unknown to me.

Will of Jeremiah Vail. I have seen reports of a will for Jeremiah Vail (Made: 12/04/1685, Probated: 10/19/1687, Southold, NY). I have been all through the New York Wills book and can't find it. Where is it?

Need more evidence: I would appreciate any more evidence that anyone can contribute that the wife of Nathaniel Moore (Sarah) was the daughter of Jeremiah Vail. I have found this link in several secondary sources, but do not know the evidence on which it is based (ie naming of Nathaniel Moore in Jeremiah's will, marriage record, etc.)

Jeremiah married Mary Folger on 24 May 1660. Mary (daughter of John Folger and Merebiah Gibbs) was born in 1630; died in 1670. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Norris Taylor states: Mary Folger was probably the daughter of John Folger and Meribiah Gibbs of Nantucket and is likely the great-aunt of Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin is a grandchild of a Peter Folger, a brother of Mary Folger. This identity is not given in the Vail Genealogy. Torrey gives her maiden name as Folger.

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Married:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-genforum/pageload.cgi?orange::vail::284. html
"I have an ancestor, Jonathon Tuthill, who was married to a mary Vail, who was born about 1708 in Orient, Suffolk, NY. She died in 1747 in Goshen, Orange, NY. I know her parents are Jeremiah Vail and Mary ???? and his father is Jeremiah Vail. Does anyone have any info on Mary's ancestors?" (Tony Hix).