- Yes, date unknown
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Walter (of Westraw & Hyndford) Carmichael (son of Charles (of Park & Hyndford) Carmichael and Marion (of Loudoun) Campbell); died on 26 Sep 1625. Notes:
WALTER CARMICHAEL of Hynd|ford, who, in the writs of the lands of Hynd|ford, is designed grandson of Gavin, and great grand-son of Walter of Park,anno 1567.
This Walter, by his singular prudence and oeconomy, greatly improved his estate, and obtained charters from king James VI. of the lands of Ponfeigh, and others, wherein he is designed Walterus Carmichael de Hyndford, &c.*anno 1595.
He married Grizel,* daughter of sir John Carmichael of Meadowslat, captain of Craw|ford, by whom he had a son, Sir James, his heir,? and six daughters.
Walter married Grizel (of Meadowflat) Carmichael on 31 Jan 1576-1577. Grizel (daughter of Sir George (4th of Meadowflat) Carmichael and Elizabeth Scott) was born before 1577; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
4. | Charles (of Park & Hyndford) Carmichael (son of Gavin (of Park & Hyndford) Carmichael); and died. Notes:
Charles (James) Carmichael of Park and Hyndford
TSP identifies this man as Charles "who has been wrongly styled James",which is the name used in BE1883. TSP suggests that Charles may have predeceased his father and so may not have been laird of the family estates. TSP also suggests that his wife may have been a daughter of Crichton of Sauchie/Sanquhar. We follow BE1883 in showing his wife as Marian Campbell because it does not just mention her name but refers also to her pedigree.
m. Marian Campbell (dau of Sir Hugh Campbell of Loudoun, Sheriff ofAyr)
(i) Walter Carmichael of Park and Hyndford (d 1616 / 25.09.1625)
From Stirnet Genealogy athttp://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/cc4aq/carmichael01.htm
However, The Peerage of Scotland: A Genealogical and Historical Account of ... of 1767 does not mention charles, instead recording James as son of Walter, son of Gavib, son of Walter in lineal descent.
Charles + Marion (of Loudoun) Campbell. Marion (daughter of Sir Hugh (of Loudoun) Campbell and Lady Margaret (of Lennox) Stewart) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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7. | Elizabeth Scott and died. Notes:
"A daughter. of the house of Buccleuch"
(Research):The Peerage of Scotland: A Genealogical and Historical Account of ... of 1767 records that Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Walter Scott and Grizel Bethune, married John Carmichael of Meadowflat, Captain of Crawford.
This source states that her brother, Walter, married Margaret Douglas, daughter of 'David, Earl of Douglas and Angus'
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Generation: 4
12. | Sir John (3rd of Meadowflat) Carmichael was born in 1489 (son of John (2nd of Meadowflat) 3rd baron Carmichael); died in 1567. Notes:
or Medowflat
Captain of Crawford Castle
(Research):His wife (or mother) may have been Katharine Charteris (daughter of Robert Charteris, younger of Amisfield) who married a John Carmichael of Meadowflat. She may (or may not) have been mother of a missing generation son who might have been the father of George, 4th of Medowflat - who might have been named John. (Various sources)
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