Family/Spouse: Mary Buchanan. Mary was born about 1870; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Margaret Christiana (Peggy) Maclaren was born about 1900 in UK; died in Scotland.
2. James Maclaren was born about 1900 in UK.
3. Barbara Maclaren was born about 1900 in UK.

Andrew + Christiana Andrews. Christiana died in 1900. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Brian Watters. 6th July 2001
Author of "Where Iron Runs Like Water- Brian Watters (a new history ofthe Carron Iron Works - 1759 - 1892)"
Your letter of 12 June 2001 was forwarded to me by the people at CarronPhoenix. Unfortunately, I do not know of any connection between RobertMaclaren and James Maclaren; the background of the latter gentleman isquite hazy. Where James Maclaren originated from is not known to me, buthe appears to have been quite close to managing partner Joseph Stainton(he had Stainton's s power of attorney), whose sister Betty, heeventually married. By 1791, he had obviously amassed enough money tobegin buying Carron Company shares, becoming a partner by 1795. He thenwent to the Liverpool office and finally to London, where he died in1808. His son, James Maclaren, was a Barrister at Law and was married toJoseph Stainton's daughter Caroline. They lived at East Sussex beforemoving to Constable Burton in Yorkshire. Their son, James Joseph StaintonMaclaren, also a Barrister, was chairman of the Company from 1906 untilhis death at his home Ratho Park (now a golf club) in 1927. He had nooffspring, so his Carron Company shares passed to other relatives withinthe Stainton family. Amongst those who benefited, was a relative, DrMaclaren of Elie, Fife.

However, I can give you a little information on some of the othersmentioned in your letter. Robert Maclaren's wife Margaret, was thedaughter of James Shaw of Bainsford. She inherited her father's propertyin 1822 as can be seen from the Abridgement of Sasines for Stirlingshire:

Sept. 20. 1822. 617. MARGARET SHAW, spouse of Robert McLaren, Clerk tothe Carton Co., residing in Bainsford, Seised, Sept. 17. 1822, - in 7Falls of ground with the Houses thereon, being part of the lands ofMUNGALL, adjacent to BAINSFORD, par. Falkirk; - on Disp. by James Shaw,Labourer,
Bainsford, her father, Apr. 23. 1806. PR. 102.20."

From Brian Watters 20 July 2001
"Since our last correspondence, I have come up with some other bits whichyou may or may not know about, but which may be of interest. The MI's(Monumental Inscriptions, compiled by Mitchell & Mitchell in c1972) showthat Robert Maclaren and his wife were both interred in FalkirkChurchyard:
Robert Maclaren
died 1 I'? August 1826 aged 48
his widow
Margaret Shaw
died 24'? September 1854 aged 73
Unfortunately, most of this graveyard (Falkirk Old and St Modans ParishChurch) was cleared a few years ago and the remains re-interred inCamelon Cemetery. I also came across another Sasine which refers toproperty in Bainsford purchased by William Monteath and his wife Ann Shaw(who got liferent). Perhaps Ann was another relative? The seller was oneJames Rennie, perhaps a relative of the other family you mentioned(Renney or Rennie?):

2577. WILLIAM MONTEATH, Ship Carpenter, Carron, Siesed, Jan. 2.1838,- inthe southmost half of a Dwelling House and southmost half of the Gardenor ground at the back thereof and Buildings thereon, on the east side ofthe High Road leading through BAINSFORD, and Teinds, par. Falkirk; - onDisp. by James Rennie, sometime Mason, Bainsford, then in Glasgow, Aug.15. 1808; - and ANN SHAW, his spouse, Seised end, die in liferent, ofsaid subjects propriis manibus of the said William Monteath. PR191.286.
Yours sincerely,
Brian Watters."

"I have a couple of corrections to make to the information passed to you.Regarding the Falkirk Churchyard, it was the old gravestones that werecleared away and not the occupants, so your ancestors remain safe. Thesite of the Congregational Church in Bank Street, Falkirk, is nowutilised by a Bingo Hall, once Falkirk's "Picture House". I am reliablyinformed that some parts of the old church can still be seen at the rearof this building."
28th August 2001
Brian Watters

Much of the information on the Maclarens has come from a Report (about1950s) of research into family of Robert Maclaren of Bainsford. (AlsoLaurie, Shaw, Liddell, Peddie, Findlay, Renny.) Commissioned by JohnFrederick Peverell Maclaren.
Much information was collected over many years by him and his daughterJean Gaselle Greer. Plus additional information on Maclarens of 20th &21st Centuries is provided by family members.

More Maclaren info at
http://home.earthlink.net/~maclaren/
Called "Maclaren & Birtwistle Information" which has a link to the mainpage.
The family tree on FamilyTree Maker website "Robert Maclaren 1776-1826 &Ralph de Birdtwisell 1160" is at
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/c/Hamish-S-Maclaren/
This has lots of reports, photos, etc..

Contractor of Fife,
Family of Robert MacLaren of Bainsford, d.1826

The report below was commissioned by John Frederick Peverell Maclaren(1896-1776), probably in the 1950s.

PRELIMINARY REFORT

Robert Maclaren, Ironfounder in Glasgow, died in 1889, and his record ofdeath reads -

1889 Kinning Park District, entry 175

Robert McLaren, Iron Founder. Married to Mary Jane Findlay. 1889, AprilSecond,
9h.30 pm,. 5 St Andrew's Drive, Pollokshields. M(ale) 72 years.
(Parents) Robert McLaren, Baptist Minister,(deceased);
Margaret McLaren, M. S. Shaw (deceased).
(Informant) Robert Maclaren, junr. Son, Present.

The description of Robert Maclaren's father as Baptist Minister isexceptionally interesting. It is doubted, in view of other evidencetraced, if he were indeed so, but this was early confirmation of thetradition of descent from a Minister.

Robert Maclaren and Mary Jane Finlay were married in Glasgow on 25thAugust, 1859. He is then described as forty years of age, an Iron Founderand Engineer, resident at 10 Abbot Yard Place, Laurieston (BlythswoodDistrict, entry 345). Mary Jane Finlay was then aged nineteen, daughterof John Finlay and his wife, Mary Adams. (Robert Maclaren was admitted tothe Incorporation of Hammermen of Glasgow as son-in-law of John Finlay,Ironmonger and Smith).

Most interesting is the description of the parents of Robert Maclaren inthe 1859 marriage record as Robert McLaren, Sub-Manager of Carron IronWorks, and Margaret Shaw.

The birth and baptism of Robert is recorded in the Falkirk ParishRegister -
1817, March 2
MacLaren Robert lawl. of Robert MacLaren & Margaret Shaw born 4 current.
N.B. The parents are Baptists.

Other children similarly recorded are -
1810 Apr.15
MacLaren James Lwl. of Robert MacLaren & Margaret Shaw Born 19 Octr.1808
MacLaren Jean lawl. of Robert MacLaren & Margaret Shaw born 15 April,1810
N.B. The two children last Inserted have a Baptist to their father.

1812 Jan.3
MacLaren Margaret lawl. of Robert MacLaren & Margaret Shaw.Born 5janry.1812.
N.B.. This child has a Baptist to her father.

No other children of Robert MacLaren and Margaret Shaw are registered,but this would be accounted for by the rebellious persuasion of theparents. They would be inserted in the Parish Register only at thespecial request of the father.

The marriage of the parents is recorded at Falkirk 1807 Decr. 6th.
"Robert McLaren and Margaret Shaw both in this parish. "

At the time of the 1841 Census the family is listed as follows;

Bainsford, Falkirk

Margaret McLaren Head (approx.age)60 Ind(ependent) Y(es, i.e.born in thecounty
Janet 25 Y
Jeanie 20 Y
Andrew 15 Smith App(rentice) Y
Archibald 14 Y
(Enumeration Book 27/p/9)

In 1851 we find
Bainsford
Margaret McLaren Head W(idow)(aged)70 proprietress(born)Stirling,Falkirk.
Janet Do. Daur.U(nmarried) 30 Do. Do.
(380/Enumeration Book 1, Schedule 22)

A search in Stirlingshire Sasines showed that Robert MacLaren himselfacquired no property in the county between 1781 and 1826. 0n 20thSeptember, 1822, however, Margaret Shaw, spouse of Robert McLaren, Clerkto the Carron Co. residing in Bainsford was seised in 7 falls of groundwith the houses thereon, being part of the lands of Mungall, adjacent toBainsford, parish of Falkirk, on a disposition by James Shaw, labourer,Bainsford, her father, which was dated 23rd April, 1806.

James Shaw, Workman, Carron, was seised in this property on 18thFebruary, 1765, on a Feu Contract between him and the Trustees ofMichael Ramsay of Mungall, signed 13/15 March 1775. James Shaw's wifeJean Cockburn, was granted a liferent interest in the property. Inanother record of 1812, James Shaw is described as Feuar, Bainsford, andthe name seems to have been attached to the house owned and lived in byMargaret Shaw, thus accounting for the description of Robert Maclaren asof Bainsford.

In a search for relevant Wills or Testaments, that of Robert MacLaren wastraced, though this very interesting document is not a testamenttestamentary, his estate being disposed under the terms of his MarriageContract with Margaret Shaw. The relevant deeds were not recorded in theStirlingshire Sheriff Court until 1864, as a result of the dispute withAndrew Liddell. A full copy of the deed is appended. Robert Maclaren isagain described as sub-manager of the Carron Iron Co. and his date ofdeath at Bainsford confirmed as 11th August, 1826. Details of the caseagainst the estate of Andrew Liddell are given. The executry shows thatMargaret MacLaren married William Law, Glasgow, Janet still lived atBainsford; and the younger sons, Andrew and Archibald were Ironmongers inLondon. The full text of the Post-Nuptial Contract between RobertMacLaren and Margaret Shaw is also given.

Note A: Shaw

The. baptism of Margaret Shaw is recorded at Falkirk-
1781 lst April
Margaret Shaw laul.dau. to James Shaw & Jean Cockburn.
Wit(nesses) John Swourbay (?) and John Russell.

Other children registered to the same person are :
Janet, baptized 13 May 1770
Catherine, baptized 27 June, 1773 (witnesses including a Robert 5haw)
Jean, baptized 27 October, 1776.

The marriage of the parents is not registered at Falkirk, suggesting thatthey came there from elsewhere. suggesting that they came there fromelsewhere.

NOTE B: ANCESTRY OF ROBERT M.ACLAREN

Robert MacLaren is known to have been born about 1778, but there is nosuitable baptismal entry recorded in the Falkirk Registers. So far therehas been no indication as to his parish of origin or parentage.

It is suggested that the following lines of enquiry be pursued -

(a) In the Contract between Robert MacLaren and Margaret Shaw (seephotostat copy) the Trustees appointed are Andrew Liddell "our belovedBrother" and Andrew Renny "our Brother-in-law". It might be helpful toestablish the relationship of Andrew Liddell in particular, if he wasrelated to the MacLarens. Even if the wife could be a clue, and it ispossible that he was a brother uterine of Robert MacLaren.

(b) In view of the Baptist persuasion of Robert MacLaren it is likelythat he was the son of a Baptist Minister, Records of Baptists are noteasily available but the line of enquiry can be followed up.

(c) Now that it is known that Robert MacLaren was sub-manager of theCarron Co., it would seem worth while to re-open that line ofinvestigation. The records of the Company are now deposited in RegisterHouse, Edinburgh, and though not yet available to the public (beinguncatalogued) access could probably be arranged.





Robert MacLaren of Bainsford

Report

Andrew Liddell, brother of Robert MacLaren, died at Bardowie House,parish of Baldernock on 15 November 1854. So far no record has been foundof his death (Baldernock has no burial records) and it is mostunfortunate that he did not survive till 1855 when the registration ofbirths, marriages and deaths became compulsory in Scotland. However heleft a Trust Settlement which at first sight appeared very helpful. ThisTrust was recorded in the Books of Council and Session but is also quotedin the Stirling Sheriff Court Register of Inventories Volume 36 page 122.The following genealogical information was extracted:

Andrew Liddell married twice. His first wife was Janet Goodsir and hersister Mary Goodsir now residing in Largo in Fifeshire is mentioned inthe Settlement. His second wife was Jessie Peddie. There is a referenceto an ante-nuptial contract of marriage dated 2 November 1829, but it isunlikely that this document was registered officially as the source wouldnormally be given.

Details are given of the McLaren family. He speaks of' his deceasedbrother uterine Robert McLaren, Clerk at Carron Iron works, and hiswidow, Margaret Shaw or McLaren.
The children are also mentioned:
James Shaw Mclaren now at Pittsburgh or elsewhere in the USA,
Robert McLaren Gas Tube Manufacturer in Glasgow,
Andrew McLaren, merchant in London,
and Archibald McLaren 'presently Clerk with the said Robert Mclaren,'
Janet McLaren living with her mother at Bainsford, and
Margaret McLaren wife of William Law formerly Shoemaker in Dunfermlinenand now or
lately Farmer at Brunton in Linlithgowshire.

Andrew Liddell also makes bequests to the children of the late AndrewRenny, Sawyer at Carron, and of his first wife, Margaret McLaren who wasAndrew Liddell's sister uterine. (Therefore Andrew Renny is both AndrewLiddell's and Robert Maclaren & Margaret Shaw's brother-in-law. See alsoNote:B (a))
The children are:
Michael Bruce Renny, Smith at Carron Iron works,
Andrew Renny, Smith in Glasgow,
Margaret Renny, wife of James Scott sawyer at at Carron,
Jean Renny wife of William Telford, weaver or blockcutter at or nearPollokshaws,
Robert Renny now or lately smith at Falkirk Foundry,
Isabella Renny wife of Moses Neilson at Grahamston,
Phoebe Renny, wife of Boston Harley dresser of iron goods at Carron,
and Jessie Renny widow of Andrew Stewart shoemaker at Grahamston.
Andrew Renny's second wife was Margaret Stevenson (they were married in1819).



Bequests are also made to the sons of his deceased uncle, WilliamLiddell, Baker in Airth.
The sons are:
William Joiner residing in Glasgow,
Alexander, baker at Airth,
and Andrew who was mentally deficient and resided with his brotherAlexander.

He also leaves money to the children of his aunt, Mrs Mary Liddell, byher second marriage with James Dunn, farmer in Airth.
The children are:
James Dunn, Baker in Tradeston,
Barbara Dunn or Shoels, widow of the late William Shoels, Nailer inAlloa,
and Christiana Dunn or Galloway, wife of William Galloway, Carter inCalton of
Glasgow.

Several of the Peddie family are mentioned:
Mrs Catherine Hodge or Peddie, widow of the late William Peddie,Secretary of the
Insurance Co. of Scotland,
Wilhelmina and Susan Peddie, his sisters in law residing with theirbrother in Edinburgh,
William and Alexander Peddie, his brothers in law,
Mary Peddie, spouse of Charles Arthur Secretary to the Edinburgh andLeith Gas Co.

The trustees appointed by Andrew Liddell were:
Patrick Wilson, Architect in Edinburgh (who appears to have beenmarried to a Catherine
Peddie, with children Robert, Catherine and William Wilson)
John McAndrew, S.S.C. in Edinburgh, an old and valued friend.
William James Duncan, manager of the National Bank of Scotland inEdinburgh.
William Lockhart, formerly merchant in Kirkcaldy, now residing atBirkenhead, Cheshire,
and married to an Eliz. Peddie.
David Smith, Shoemaker in Glasgow.
Alexander Hastie, Merchant in Glasgow
Hugh Moncrieff, Writer in Glasgow (or his partner Adam Paterson, Writerthere).

There are several bequests to charity including Baptist organisations.
A bequest to William Auld, Pastor of the Baptist Church in Brown Street,Glasgow, was later cancelled in a codicil to the settlement.

This settlement was dated 15 November 1848. The codicil is dated 26 April1851 and was written at Plean House, Stirlingshire.

Unfortunately Andrew Liddell and his wife were not at Plean House (Parishof St Ninians) during the 1851 Census Schedules and an attempt to findhim at Bardowie House in Baldernock and at some of the premises he ownedin Glasgow was unsuccessful. This was a great drawback as the Censuswould have produced an age and parish of birth.
.........


Andrew Liddell's first marriage was recorded in Glasgow in 1820:

"Andrew Liddell, Merchant in Glasgow & Janet Goodsir Parish of Largo,Fifeshire, Married 11th Jany by Mr. Anstruther Taylor, Minister ofCarnbee."

The second marriage was recorded in Glasgow and Edinburgh, which last isquoted:

"Mr. Andrew Liddell, Ironmonger, Residing in Argyll Street in the City ofGlasgow and Miss Jessie Peddie Residing in No. 12 Windmill Street in thisParish, Eldest Daughter of Mr William Peddie, Secretary to the InsuranceCompany of Scotland, Residing there, have been Three times proclaimed inorder to marriage in the Parish Church of Saint Cuthberts and noObjections have been Offered. Married on the Third day of Nov. current byHenry David Dickie Pastor of the Baptist Congregation in Pleasance."

With the aid of the Census Schedules it was discovered that AndrewLiddell's uncle, William Liddell, married Margaret Boyd in Airth on 13December 1793. James Dunn and Mary Liddell were married 30 April 1789 inAirth. William Liddell died in Airth and was buried on 4 June 1837, butthe age is left blank. A search for the possible birth of Andrew Liddellor Robert MacLaren in Airth was not successful.

William Liddell left a will but it was not helpful as the executors wereWilliam Boyd, Farmer in Airth Mill and Peter Boyd, Farmer, Westfield. Thedocument gives his date of death as 31 May 1837 and his children (livingin 1835) as Margaret, Ann, Mary, William, Alexander
and Andrew. (Stirling Sheriff Court: Register of Deeds Vol. 29, page227 and Register of Inventories Vol. 17, page 503).
On 24 August 1854 Alexander Liddell, Baker, Airth, gives Peter Boyd asPower of Attorney as he is thinking of going to Australia. (StirlingSheriff Court Register of Deeds Vol. 29, page 225).

Glasgow Sasines (in their abridged version) were examined 1781 - 1860 andalthough Andrew Liddell was concerned in several property deals he doesnot appear to have inherited any of the property from relatives.

Then Stirlingshire Sasines were examined 1781 - 1830 and a newpossibility appeared. On 24 November 1797 Andrew Liddell, Schoolmaster atBainsford, and Margaret Laurie his spouse were seised in 6 falls ofground which were part of the lands of Mungall (Stirlingshire ParticularRegister of Sasines Vol. 34, page 526). Margaret Laurie can sell the landafter the death of her husband Andrew Liddell 'if she should be under thenecessity of so doing for her own and the child or children procreated ofthe marriage between her and the said Andrew Liddell their support &upbringing but not otherwise'. This could be taken as an indication thatshe had children by a first marriage.

On 19 October 1814 Andrew Liddell, eldest lawful son of Andrew Liddell,schoolmaster at Bainsford, and Margaret Laurie, is seised in the aboveland which he sells again on 15 January 1817. (Stirlingshire ParticularRegister of Sasines Vol 7, page 209, and Vol. 75, page 210).


The birth of Andrew Liddell was entered in the Falkirk parish registers:
2Oth (December 1789)
C(hild). Andrew lawl,
P(arents Andrew Liddell
Margaret Lawrie
W(itnesses) John Robertson
Daniel Miller
Born lst Current.

The marriage of the parents did not take place in Falkirk but waseventually found in the parish of Larbert

"June 10th 1786 Andrew Liddle & Margaret Laurie both in this parish gaveup their names for proclamation"

No other children were registered in Falkirk to this couple up to 1797."

While there is no proof that Andrew Liddell and Margaret Laurie were theparents of Andrew Liddell, Ironmonger in Glasgow, the known facts wouldseem to fit the case fairly well. Unfortunately, however, a possiblefirst marriage of Margaret Lawrie and McLaren was not found in Larbert(though there is a gap in the marriage register 1768- 1775) and the birthof a Robert McLaren around 1778 to such parents was not registered inLarbert. Success in finding an entry would of course depend very much onwhether the McLarens lived in the Stirlingshire area or simply camethere, after the birth of their children, from, some other part ofScotland.
(From a Report [about 1950s] of research into the family of RobertMaclaren of Bainsford. Commissioned by John Frederick Peverell Maclaren.)


An attempted to type up the handwritten notes of John Frederick PeverellMaclaren (1896-1776), probably written in the 1950s or 60s.

Notes by John Frederick Peverell Maclaren (1896-1776)
1. Margaret Lawrie "Lawrie" is given by Mr. Maclaren of Maclaren onp.124 as an Anglicized version of Maclaren, which some families adopted.Thereforewas this her first husbands name, if so why did her childrenrevert to "Maclaren". Or was it her maiden name? W? did Registrair dowe cares of /// named twice? Was her husband ????? "wanted"for the '45 and adopted this name as a temporary safe-guard _ or hisfather/ (her husband could have been in the '45)
2. Was Maclaren or Lawrie a Baptist .. No evidence ?? be ???. TheLiddells seem to have been.
3. The Liddells seem to have come from Airth


Notes
1. Buried in the old Kirkyard of Falkirk. James Shaw & his wife JeanCockburn, and Robert Shaw are described as "beloved ancestors" byMargaret's children who erected the stone soon after her death. It seemsprobable that James & Jean where her parents and Robert's ? hergrandfather, that he is is not specifically stated. Bainsford is ?? nof Falkirk.
2. Year of birth shown in brackets (1778 for Robert Maclaren) arecomputed from age of death ? so may be one year out, according to thedate of death and of birthday.
3. (James Shaw Maclaren (1808-1891) Born in Bainsford 1808. Died in USAin 1891.
4. (John Finlay, 1812-1883, & Mary Adams, d. 1883, their daughter MaryJane Finlay, 1841-1900 & her husband Robert Maclaren 1817-1889) Buried inCraigton Cemetery, Glasgow. Robert was the founder of Robert Maclaren &Company, Eglington Iron Works, Glasgow. Mary Jane was an only child andvery highly educated for girls of that day. (see her self-portrait).
5. The Finlays are said to have been " Cro?? lairds", ie a landowningfamily somewhere near Glasgow. Joan Toe?? is said to have been the firstto go into business __/ a younger son.
6. (In children of Robert Maclaren & Mary Jane Finlay) There werepresumably other children, probably between James & Robert. My father(John Finlay Maclaren 1868-1908) had first cousins Richard Maclaren,Edith Maclaren, & William Kennedy. Richard had a son Richard and adaughter Peggy __ think this branch is still alive in Scotland (Peggy,living in Paisley, contacted Ian Garnet Maclaren after his pictureappeared in "Scotland" magazine and they subsequently met several times.)
7. Colonel Robert Maclaren D.L., J.P., T.D., of Craigs Linlithgow,Chairman of Robert Maclaren & Company. Seaforth Highlanders,Vice-Lieutenant of the County Ross. ?? was in Jameison Raid and was triedwith Dr. Jameison and acquitted
8. (Ada Maclaren, abt 1890-1950) married Major Charles Monro of Allan,Seaforth Highlanders, Vice-Lieutenant of the County Ross. ?? was inJameison Raid and was tried with Dr. Jameison and acquitted. Ada waskilled in a fire at Aviemore Hotel in 1950. No children.
9. ( Margaret Shaw Maclaren, b 1864) married William Stewart of Glasgow.1 daughter, Maisie who married Dr Jenner Hoskins of Harley Street,London, and had two daughters, Margaret and Mary, and a son Christopher.
10. (Joan Findlay Maclaren, b 1866) married James Alexander Clarke, RN.One daughter Isobel who married George Gillian of the Sarawak Civilservice and had a daughter Georgina and a son Robert. Joan also had a sonAlexander Robert Maclaren.
11. (John Finlay Maclaren, 1868-1908) Partner in Robert Maclaren &Company. Died aged 39 of typhoid.
12. (Clara Hillhouse, 1871-1949) Daughter of Archibald Hillhouse ofBusby, Lanarkshire. General Goods Manager of the old Caledonian RailwayCompany. Archibalds wife was Annie Adamson of County Durban, who was aPerevoll? on her mother's side.
13. (James Shaw Maclaren, 1970-1950) of Ardlarach, Tain, Ross-shire,married Daisy Stewart Ogilvie. Children Helen (married lastly a MrBregger of Nyassaland), Colin Shaw (late Indian Army now in USA),Christobel (died young),Lt. Commander Douglas Hamish Ian Leu???RN.(married Jean Trimgham and had 1 daughter Lucilla), and David PatrickOgilvie, Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders killed in action at Khartoun in1924.



Resume
1757 Margaret Lawrie (? Or Maclaren) presumably born before this date.
1786 Margaret Lawrie married Andrew Liddell 1 of Larbert (She was (if weare on the proper Liddell family which is definitely a doubt) a widowwith 2 children.
1 A daughter Margaret Maclaren?, in her "teens" (Married Andrew Renniein 1792 & therefore C. not c?ter ??? c.1775) died before 1819.
2 A son Robert maclaren, born 1778
1789 Andrew Liddell and Margaret Lawrie had a son Andrew Liddell II(birth registered at Falkirk).
1797 Andrew Liddle and his wife Margaret Lawrie bought land atBainsford. (he was now described as a school master at Bainsford.)Thisland appears to be similar to the Shaw property.
1807 Robert Maclaren married Margaret Shaw (b. 1781) at Falkirk(presumably before this time, Robert had been living with the ??Liddells, ???ding his little half brother Andrew.)
1808 Robert's son James Shaw Maclaren born.
1810 Robert's daughter Jean born (?died).
1812 Robert's daughter Margaret Born (married William Law of Glasgow)
1814 Andrew Liddle II succeeded to his parent's land at Bainsford.
1816 Robert's daughter Janet born. (? Died, not married)
1817 Robert's son Robert born. & later Jeannie (c 1820-1843) , Andrew(c1826), & Archibald (c 1827)
1820 Andrew Liddell married Janet Goodsir.
1826 Robert Died. He was then Sub-Manager of the Carron Iron Works &partner with his half-brother Andrew Liddell in his firm of"Iron-mongers" (or manufactures) of Andrew & Co.. Before his death inthe same year he set up a trust (with Margaret Shaw) for their children.The Trustees were both or either his half-brother Andrew Liddell andAndrew Rennie (husband of his elder sister Margaret). This Trust seemsto have worked without dispute until the deaths in 1854 of both AndrewLiddell and Margaret Shaw.
1840 (n? 1841) Robert II founded Robert Maclaren & Company.
1848 Date? Of Andrw Liddell's S Robert family & their whereaboutsare mentioned.
1864 Robert II & some of his brothers & sisters raise claim v. AndrwewLiddell ??? (Salt?ed) ??aviors from trust? of 1826.


Results of search 9th November 2000 at Scots Origins, Online registryof genealogical information of the Registrar General for Scotland.http://www.origins.net/GRO/

First letter:
C =Christening
B=Birth
M=Marriage

Second letter:
M = Male
F=Female
U=Unknown

C & B are organised as : Date, Name, Father, Mother, District
M is are organised as :: Date, Name, Spouse, District


Search for- Robert* Mclaren, Mother Margaret (& Margt), 1768 +Or- 5,1778 +Or- 5
C M 23 Feb 1772 Mclaren Robert, Mclaren William, Cunningham Margaret,Dunfermline
C M 12 May 1776, Mclaren Robert, Mclaren John, Mcdonald Margaret,Balquhidder
C M 6 Sep 1778, Mclaren Robert, Mclaren Donald, King Margaret,Balquhidder
C M 4 Jul 1779, Mclaren Robert, Mclaren Dougal, Fergusson Margaret,Callander
C 23 Mar 1783, Mclaren Robert, Mclaren Robert, Campbell Margt., Kincardine

Search for- Robert* Mclauren, Mother Margaret (& Margt), 1752 1798
M M 11 Apr 1765 Mclauren Robert Stewart Margt. Blair Atholl & Strowan


Search for- Robert* Mclearen, Mother Margaret, 1778 +Or- 5, 1768 +Or-5
Nothing
Search for- Robert* Mclairan & Maclairan, Mother Margaret, 1768 +Or- 5,1778 +Or- 5.
Nothing
Search for- Robert* Maclaren, Mother Margaret (& Margt), 1768 +Or- 5,1778 +Or- 5.
Nothing
Search for- Robert* Mcclaren, Mother Margaret (& Margt), 1768 +Or- 5,1778 +Or- 5. 1788 +Or- 5
Nothing

Maclarens
Most of the information on the Maclarens has come from a Report (about1950s)
of research into the family of Robert Maclaren of Bainsford. (AlsoLaurie, Shaw, Liddell, Peddie, Findlay, Renny.) Commissioned by JohnFrederick Peverell Maclaren.
Much information was collected over many years by him and his daughterJean Gaselle Greer.
Plus additional information on Maclarens of 20th & 21st Centuries isprovided by family members.

Information on Maclaren Chiefs is mostly from:
Margaret Maclaren of Maclaren. "The Maclarens. A History of Clan Labhran".
1976 & 1984. ISBN 0 946270 10 4. Copyright Donald Maclaren of Maclaren.
The Pentland Press, Edinburgh. Printed & bound by McCorquodale (Scotland)Ltd.

And from information that Banks McLaurin found in "Notable Events in Clanand National History"

Robert married Margaret Shaw on 6 Dec 1807 in Falkirk, Scotland. Margaret (daughter of James Shaw and Jean Cockburn) was born about 1779 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland; died in 1854 in Age 73; was buried in Falkirk Churchyard, Re-Interred In Camelon Cemetery. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

0n 20th September, 1822, Margaret Shaw, spouse of Robert McLaren,
Clerk to the Carron Co. residing in Bainsford was seised in 7 falls of
ground with the houses thereon, being part of the lands of Mungall,
adjacent to Bainsford, parish of Falkirk, on a disposition by James
Shaw, labourer, Bainsford, her father, which was dated 23rd April,
1806.


From Brian Watters 6th July 2001
However, I can give you a little information on some of the othersmentioned in your letter. Robert Maclaren's wife Margaret, was thedaughter of James Shaw of Bainsford. She inherited her father's propertyin 1822 as can be seen from the Abridgement of Sasines for Stirlingshire:

Sept. 20. 1822. 617. MARGARET SHAW, spouse of Robert McLaren, Clerk tothe Carron Co., residing in Bainsford, Seised, Sept. 17. 1822, - in 7Falls of ground with the Houses thereon, being part of the lands ofMUNGALL, adjacent to BAINSFORD, par. Falkirk; - on Disp. by James Shaw,Labourer,
Bainsford, her father, Apr. 23. 1806. PR. 102.20.

Notes:

May have been a fugitive from the '45 rebellion and had to change hisname. Consequently confusion ref use of the name of Lawrie, his wife'sname.

There is a story in the family that he or one of his predecessors (fatheror grandfather) was in Bonnie Prince Charlie's Artillery and took part inthe bombardment of Stirling castle.

See Robert Maclaren of Bainsford for more information.
Looking for information on him, his ancestors and other descendents. Ifyou have any leads please E mail Hamish Maclaren at maclaren@earthlink.net

More Maclaren info at
http://home.earthlink.net/~maclaren/
Called "Maclaren & Birtwistle Information" which has a link to the mainpage.
The family tree on FamilyTree Maker website "Robert Maclaren 1776-1826 &Ralph de Birdtwisell 1160" is at
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/c/Hamish-S-Maclaren/
This has lots of reports, obituaries, photos, etc..

Maclarens
Most of the information on this line of Maclarens has come from a Report(about 1950s) of research into the family of Robert Maclaren ofBainsford. (Also Laurie, Shaw, Liddell, Peddie, Findlay, Renny.)Commissioned by John Frederick Peverell Maclaren.
Much information was collected over many years by him and his daughterJean Gaselle Greer.
Plus additional information on Maclarens of 20th & 21st Centuries isprovided by family members.

Information on Maclaren Chiefs is mostly from:
Margaret Maclaren of Maclaren. "The Maclarens. A History of Clan Labhran".
1976 & 1984. ISBN 0 946270 10 4. Copyright Donald Maclaren of Maclaren.
The Pentland Press, Edinburgh. Printed & bound by McCorquodale (Scotland)Ltd.

And from information that Banks McLaurin found in "Notable Events in Clanand National History".

Maclaren + Margaret (Laurie) Lawrie. Margaret (daughter of Lawrie?) was born about 1750 in Scotland; died in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

I have searched for Margaret Lawrie and I have added what I found incase it is of use to others.

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1. Margt. LAURY Christening: 24 Aug 1740 Cleish, Kinross, Scotland
Father: Robert LAURY
2. Margaret LAURIE christening: 26 Dec 1740 Libberton, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Roger LAURIE Mother: Janet BROUN
3. MARGARET LOURIE Christening: 27 Jan 1740 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Father: JOHN LOURIE Mother: MARGARET WILKIE
4. Margarit LAURIE Marriage: 3 Jul 1740 Tarves, Aberdeen, Scotland
Spouse: John SANGSTER
5. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 4 May 1740 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: James MUIR
6. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 25 Oct 1740 Lanark, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse: James HENRY
8. Margaret LOWRIE Christening: 5 Apr 1741 Saint Monance, Fife,Scotland
Father: John LOWRIE Mother: Margaret COOK
9. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 6 Jan 1741 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Charles LAURIE Mother: Jean WALKINGSHAW
10. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: Abt. 1741 Colinton, Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: John SMITH
11. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 6 Jan 1741 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
12. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 29 Aug 1742 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: George LOGAN
13. Margaret LAURY Marriage: 28 Apr 1742 Canongate, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse George LOGAN
Father: Deacon LAURY
15. Margaret LAWRY Marriage: 28 Apr 1742 Of Canongate, Midlothian,Scotland
Father: Mr. LAWRY
16. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 12 Jul 1743 Liberton, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: Roland LAUIE Mother: Janet WILSON
17. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 12 Jul 1743 Libberton, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Roland LAUIE Mother: Janet WILSON
18. Margrat LOWARY Christening: 13 Nov 1743 Mid Calder, Midlothian,Scotland
Father: James LOWARY Mother: Margrat NICKELL
19. Margaret LOWRIE Christening: 16 Jan 1743 Glassford, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John LOWRIE
21. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 5 Jun 1743 Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland
Father: Robert LAWRIE Mother: WIGHT
22. Margaret MUIR - Marriage: 11 Sep 1743 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse: William GRAY Marriage: 11 Sep 1743 Hamilton, Lanark,Scotland
23. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: Abt. 1743 , Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: James MUIR
24. Margt. LAWRIE Marriage: 30 Dec 1743 Clackmannan, Clackmannan,Scotland
Spouse: James FOSTER
25. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 21 Oct 1744 Cockburnspath, Berwick, Scotland
Father: James LAURIE Mother: Elizabeth ANDERSON
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26. Margaret LAWRIE Gender: M Birth/Christening: 17 Mar 1743 Spott, EastLothian, Scot.
Father: John LAWRIE (AFN: 12JH-LFN) Birth: 26 Mar 1704 Spott,East Lothian, Scot.
Father: William LOWRIE (AFN: 12JH-PGD)
Mother: Sophia WILSON (AFN: 12JH-L9T)
Mother: Violet CROMBIE (AFN: 12JH-LPB) Birth: 15 Aug 1708 Stenton,East Lothian, Scot.
Father: William CRUMBIE (AFN: 12JH-LKH)
Mother: Helen KELLIE (AFN: 12JH-LLP)

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1. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 20 May 1750 Dunbar, East Lothian,Scotland
Father: Lodwick LAWRIE
2. Margaret LAURIE - Christening: 4 Mar 1750 Prestonpans, East Lothian,Scotland
Father: James LAURIE Mother: Janet WITHERSPOON
3. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 14 Oct 1750 Prestonpans, East Lothian,Scotland
Father: Andrew LAURIE Mother: Margaret MARK
4. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 11 Mar 1750 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh,Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: George CRAIGIE
7. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 5 Sep 1751 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
Father: James LAURIE Mother: Elizabeth BURNS
8. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 13 Nov 1751 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland
Father: John LAURIE Mother: Jenet AITKEN
9. Margaret LAURIE Birth: Abt. 1751 Of Kinross, Fife, Scotland
Spouse: John INGLIS
10. Margt. LAURIE Christening: 5 Mar 1751 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Charles LAURIE Mother: Margt. SWEETMAN
11. MARGARET LOWRIE Christening: 30 Oct 1751 Abercorn, West Lothian,Scotland
Father: THOMAS LOWRIE Mother: ISOBEL DUNCAN
12. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 15 Sep 1751 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse: Patrick BAIRD
14. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 12 Nov 1752 Prestonpans, East Lothian,Scotland
Father: Robert LAURIE Mother: Elizabeth PEAT
15. Margt. LAURIE Christening: 17 Oct 1752 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Charles LAURIE Mother: Margt. SWEETMAN
16. MARGARET LOWRIE Christening: 19 Jul 1752 Port Glasgow, Renfrew,Scotland
Father: JAMES LOWRIE Mother: MARGARET TAFTS
17. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: Abt. 1752 , Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: Charles Pentland WRIGHT
18. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 31 Jan 1752 Kirkliston, West Lothian,Scotland
Spouse: John SMITH
19. Margarat LAWRIE Marriage: 1 Dec 1752 Wiston And Roberton, Lanark,Scotland
Spouse: George KIRKWOOD
20. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 30 Dec 1752 Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland
Spouse: William HOPKIRK
21. Margaret LAURIE Birth: Abt. 1753 Coldingham, Berwickshire, ,Scotland
22. Margaret LAURIE Birth: Abt. 1753 Dunbar, East Lothian, Lothian,Scotland
23. Margt. LAWRIE Christening: 19 Aug 1753 Linlithgow, West Lothian,Scotland
Father: John LAWRIE Mother: Jean DUNCAN
24. Margarat LAWRIE Christening: 29 Aug 1753 Wiston And Roberton,Lanark, Scotland
Father: James LAWRIE
25. Margtt. LAWRIE Christening: 29 Sep 1753 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John LAWRIE Mother: Margtt. GILCHRIST


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1. Margaret LOWRIE Birth: 1756 Carluke, Lanark, Scotland
2. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 7 Nov 1756 Coull, Aberdeen, Scotland
3. Margaret LAURIE Birth: Abt. 1756 Of Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
4. Margaret LOWRIE Marriage: 27 Apr 1756 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
spouse: James FETTES Marriage: 27 Apr 1756, Arbroath, Angus,Scotland
5. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 11 Dec 1756 Beath, Fife, Scotland
Spouse: James LESSELLS Marriage: 11 Dec 1756,Beath, Fife, Scotland
6. Margaret LAURI Misc: Abt. 1756 Of, Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
7. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 1 Oct 1757 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Gavin LAWRIE Mother: Christian MILLAR
8. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 4 Oct 1757 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Gavin LAWRIE Mother: Christian MILLAR
9. Margaret LOWRIE Christening: 6 Mar 1757 Currie, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: John LOWRIE Mother: Margaret GOSKIRK
10. Margret LAWRIE Marriage: 7 Jan 1757 Cleish, Kinross, Scotland
Spouse: James LESSELS Marriage:7 Jan 1757,Cleish, Kinross,Scotland
11. Peggy LOWREY Christening: 14 Jan 1758 Saint Bees, Cumberland,England
12. Margarat LAURIE Christening: 30 Aug 1758 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
Father: John LAURIE Mother: Margarat BANNERMAN
13. Margaret LOURIE Christening: 5 Nov 1758 Lochlee, Angus, Scotland
Father: Alexander LOURIE
14. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 19 Oct 1758 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John LAURIE Mother: Margaret GILCHRIST
15. Margaret LAURIE -Birth: Abt. 1758 Of Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse: Thomas STEELE
16. Margaret LAURY Marriage: 19 May 1758 Liberton, Midlothian, Scotland
Spouse: Walter FLETCHER
17. Margaret LAWRIE -Marriage: 30 Apr 1758 Edinburgh, Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: Walter FLETCHER
18. Margaret LAURIE Marriage: 11 Sep 1758 Dalmeny, West Lothian,Scotland
Spouse: William DOWNIE
19. Peggy LAURIE -Marriage: 6 Mar 1758 Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland
20. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 23 Aug 1759 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Gavin LAWRIE Mother: Christian MILLAR
21. Margaret LAURIE Birth: 23 Aug 1759 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Gavin LAWRIE Mother: Christian MILLAR
22. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: Abt. 1759 Of Nother Liberton, Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: Thomas HAMILTON
23. MARGARET LAURIE Christening: 13 Jul 1759 Earlston, Berwick,Scotland
Father: WALTER LAURIE
24. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 25 Aug 1759 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Gavin LAURIE Mother: Christian MILLAR
25. Margaret LAURIE Christening: 15 Jun 1760 Sanquhar, Dumfries,Scotland
Father: John LAURIE Mother: Janet LAURIE
Margaret LAURIE Christening: 15 Jun 1760 Prestonpans, EastLothian, Scotland
Father: Andrew LAURIE Mother: Marion DICKSON

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26. Margaretha LAURI - Birth: 26 Aug 1771 Saint Johns Lutheran,Manorton, Columbia, New York
27. Margaretha LAURI Birth: 27 Jun 1777 Saint Johns Lutheran, Manorton,Columbia, New York
28. Margaret LOURY Marriage: 11 Oct 1796 Swedes Ch, Philadelphia,Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
29. Margaret LOURY Marriage: 11 Oct 1796 Of Philadelphia, Phila.,Pennsylvania




International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: Abt. 1830 Of Culduthel, Scotland
2. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 5 Feb 1852 West Linton, Peebles,Scotland
3. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 10 Nov 1833 Middle Church, Paisley,Renfrew, Scotland
4. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 13 Apr 1806 Middle Church, Paisley,Renfrew, Scotland
5. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 1714 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
6. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 14 Jun 1716 Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland
7. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 7 Aug 1721 Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland
8. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 9 Oct 1733 Dalrymple, Ayr, Scotland
Spouse: Andrew SLOWAN
9. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 22 Jul 1800 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
Father: John LAWRIE Mother: Margaret WALLACE
10. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 1 Sep 1813 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
11. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 26 Feb 1846 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
12. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 15 Jun 1850 Dalry, Ayr, Scotland
13. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 23 Aug 1851 Dalry, Ayr, Scotland
14. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 1853 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland
15. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 17 Jun 1857 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
16. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 22 Apr 1860 Dalmellington, Ayr, Scotland
17. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 25 Mar 1864 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
18. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 2 Nov 1866 Stewarton, Ayr, Scotland
19. Margaret LAWRIE Marriage: 24 Apr 1868 Stewarton, Ayr, Scotland
20. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 1 Jan 1869 Ballantrae, Ayr, Scotland
21. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 16 Sep 1872 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland
22. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 12 Oct 1872 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland
23. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 22 Feb 1873 Dunlop, Ayr, Scotland
24. Margaret LAWRIE Birth: 8 Jan 1817 Penpont, Dumfries, Scotland
25. Margaret LAWRIE Christening: 1 May 1851 Ancrum, Roxburgh, Scotland

Margaret LAURIE
Spouse: James PATON Marriage: 2 Jan 1763 Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Margaret (Laurie) (Mary) LAWRIE Birth: Abt. 1766 New Monkland,Lanark, Scotland
Margaret LOWRIE Birth: 21 Mar 1768 Carnbrew, Lanark, Scotland
Parents: Father: James LOWRIE Mother: Margaret STE

Notes:

James Shaw, Workman, Carron, was seised in this property on 18thFebruary, 1765, on a Feu Contract between him and the Trustees ofMichael Ramsay of Mungall, signed 13/15 March 1775. James Shaw's wifeJean Cockburn, was granted a life rent interest in the property. Inanother record of 1812, James Shaw is described as Feuar, Bainsford, andthe name seems to have been attached to the house owned and lived in byMargaret Shaw.

From Brian Watters July 2001
Author of "Where Iron Runs Like Water- Brian Watters (a new history ofthe Carron Iron Works - 1759 - 1892)"
"James Shaw, then styled "workman at Carron", had feued ground at MungalEstate from the local landowner in 1775 and bought it in 1785 :
658. James Shaw, Workman, Carron, Seised February 18. 1785, - in part ofMungall, par.
Falkirk; on Feu Con. between him and Trustees of Michael Ramsay ofMungall, March 13.
15. 1775; - and JEAN COCKBURN, his spouse, Seised, eod. die, in liferentof said subject,
propriis manibus of the said James Shaw. PR 28. 393.

This ground was part of the new village of Bainsford, situated about 1/2mile south of the ironworks. The following may also apply to the samefamily. In an article (Highways, By-ways and Biggins of Falkirk, by JamesLove), which appeared in the local newspaper Falkirk Herald of 13th July1927, it is recorded that James Shaw, feuar of Bainsford and a foundermember of the Independant or Congregationalist Church at Falkirk, had ason also called James, born in 1820. This latter gentleman would mostlikely have been a grandson of the first-mentioned James Shaw. Accordingto Mr Love, he settled in the west of Scotland as an ironfounder andbecame Provost of Maryhill. His son was Archibald (Sir) McInnes Shaw,Bart., who was a Lord Provost of Glasgow.

The Abridgement of Sasines also mention Andrew Liddell (father and son)of Bainsford:

8281. The Carron Company seised, November 29. 1816- in 6 Falls of groundand houses thereon the west side of the road leading from Falkirk toCarron adjacent to Bainsford, being part of the lands of Mungall parFalkirk; - on disp. by Andrew Liddell, son of Andrew Liddell SchoolmasterBainsford, to James Begg, Turner there July 26. 1814 and disp. and assig.by him November 29. 1816.

I hope this has been of some interest to you.

Yours sincerely,

Brian Watters.

P.S. Thomas (Sir) and Clawson Brodie of Carron Company lived at 9 AinsliePlace: she died there in 1903."


From Brian Watters. 14 Aug 2001
"I have uncovered some more information on your ancestors, with regard tothe Congregational Church at Falkirk, which once stood in Bank Street, onthe site of Young's Furniture Store. The following is taken fromAntiquarian Notes and Queries, written in 1908 by James Love. ,

In July 1802, a piece of ground was feued from William Balloch, flesher,Falkirk, for the erection of a church. Those who entered into thecontract with Balloch were : James Shaw. feuar, Bainsford; Andrew Renny.feuar there; Hugh Mitchell, feuar in Grahamston; William Wyse, workman atCarron; and Robert McLaren, clerk there, for themselves and as trusteesand managers for the whole, present and future members of theCongregational Church at Falkirk.


Mr Love then explained that the Congregational Church in general, wentthrough a difficult period from about 1807, with some members leaving tojoin other churches. He concluded that the church at Falkirk was nodifferent:

All the trustees, with the exception of James Shaw, feuar, Bainsford,resigned office, each vacancy being filled up as it arose. To our certainknowledge, two of the original trustees followed the example of thebrothers Haldane and became Baptists. In 1812, it was deemed necessary tomake out fresh titles to the feu and church building 'in consequence ofthe exclusion or desertion of the other trustees who have now becomemembers of Churches holding different principles of doctrine, fellowship,and discipline." The new trustees chosen were : -James Shaw, feuar,Bainsford; John Dick, cabinetmaker, there; Alexander Gilchrist, wright,Larbert; John Gilchrist, there; John Rennie, senior, wright,Stenhousemuir; John Rennie, junior, moulder, there; John Jerome, farmer,Denny; John Laird, blockmaker, Grangemouth; John Smith, labourer, Carron:James Blaikie, wright, there; John Spence, smith, Bainsford; JamesMitchell, weaver, Falkirk; Hugh Colquhoun, merchant there; George Bennie,wright, Grahamston; John Silver, merchant, Falkirk.

It would appear that Andrew Renny and Robert Maclaren were not on the newlist of trustees. I hope this is of interest to your brother.

Yours sincerely,
Brian Watters."

James + Jean Cockburn. Jean was born about 1755; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]