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John (Sir) (of Foreviot & Glamis) Lyon[1]

Male 1320 - 1382  (62 years)


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  • Name John (Sir) (of Foreviot & Glamis) Lyon  [2
    Born 1320 
    Gender Male 
    Died 4 Nov 1382  Killed In A Duel Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Scone Abbey, Scone, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I54845  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 19 Aug 2013 

    Father John (Sir) (of Warkworth) De Lyon,   b. Between 1292 and 1319,   d. Between 1341 and 1384  (Age ~ 49 years) 
    Father Possibly Many Generations of Lyon 
    Family ID F24473  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Jean Or Joan (Princess of Scotland) Stuart,   d. Aft 1440 
    Married Bef 4 Oct 1376  Or 1379 Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Richard (Sir) Lyon,   b. 1350
     2. Henry (of Ryslippe) Lyon,   b. 1355
     3. John (Sir) (2nd of Glamis) Lyon,   b. 1380, Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1435  (Age 55 years)
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2013 
    Family ID F23288  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • The information below is from Sandi Hartnell, (hartnellsl@attbi.com) whosays "Most of the early stuff was compiled by my grandmother's twinsister, Mina Lyon Rife. She dated the material 1956. She did a lot ofresearch, and attributed some of the material from a 3 volumes titled"Lyon Memorial". She indicated they were purchased in Boston at GoodspeedBook Store. I visited Glamis Castle about 10 years ago and haveguidebooks from there that had family information, and I also picked upsome information from various web sites. "

      See also
      Hartnell Family Tree
      http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1966349
      Sandra Hartnell

      See also under John de Lyon born Bet. 1292 - 1319


      10 John (Sir) de Lyon, born 1320 (1340?), Norfolk, England or Glamis,Angusshire, Scotland. He was granted the thane age of Glamis by KingRobert II, first Stewart King of Scotland, in 1372. He was killed in aduel by James Lindsay of Crawford, Scotland's ambassador to England in11/4/1382 at Balhall, Angus shire. [Conflict - one source says he wasmurdered in his bed by Lindsay.] He was buried in Sconce with his royalconsort, Princess Jean Stuart1 1bWalter Stewart was born in 1292 inDundonald, Kyle, Ayrshire, Scotland. His parents were James Stewart,born about 1243 in Scotland and Egidia (Giles) de Bourg (Burgh) born in1263 in Ulster, Ireland. Walter married Marjorie in 1315, his secondmarriage. Her parents were Robert I "the Bruce", born July 11, 1275 inProb. Turn berry Castle, England and Isabel (aka Matilda), born about1278 in Of Mar. Walter died April 9, 1326. He was Sir/6th (sometimes3rd) High Steward from 1291-1326/Regent of Scotland, and Commander atBannockburn, 1314. Prior to Marjorie he was married to Alice Erskine.They had one child, Jean Stewart. After Marjorie's death he marriedIsabel de Graham,. She was born about 1298 Abercorn, West Lothian,Scotland. They had one child, Edigia Stewart. of Scotland. They weremarried 10/3/1376. He was Knighted in 1377; John (Sir) was madeKing-at-arms, the right to carry "double treasure fleuried and counter,fleuried in the bearing." Glamis Castle, royal resident since KingKenith I, 50 AD, was passed to John de Lyon and he was made Lord Glamis,and later High Lord Chamberlain of Scotland, and Ambassador to England.He became the head of the Lyon family of Scotland. He was a young man ofvery good parts and qualities, graceful and comely, and a great favoriteof the King. Being very fair he was known as the White Lyon.
      11 Richard (Sir) Lyon, Knight, born 1350, married Margerie.
      11 Henry Lyon of Ryslippe, Middlesex, England, born 1355, Norfolk,England.
      12 John Lyon, Knight, born about 1380 in Ryslippe. He was withthe army of Henry V that invaded Normandy and made England heir to thecrown of France and was present at the famous battle.
      13 Henry Lyon, Knight. Born about 1410, Ryslippe. [See HenryLyon, Knight document.]
      11 John (Sir) Lyon, Knight of Glamis [Circa Robert II], born 1380,at Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. He married Elizabeth Graham, born 1834at Dundoff & Kinkarine, Scotland, (Granddaughter of Robert II). He paidfor masses for the souls of his illustrious parents for 50 years. Hedied in 1435.
      12 Patrick (Sir) Lyon, Knight of Glamis Born 1402, Glamis,Angusshire, Scotland. [Circa James I] He was hostage to the English forthe 1424 ransom of King James, and was made 1st Lord Glamis and a peer ofParliament in 1455 after being released as hostage as Lord Glamis I.Master of King's household in 1452. III Lord of Kingborne. He marriedIsabella (Ogilvie) Ogilvy2, born 1406 in Linthrathen, Scotland. She diedin 1484. He died in March 21, 1459 in Bellhelvies..
      13 Alexander, born 1429, was made II Lord Glamis. He had no sonsand the Barony devolved upon second son at his death in 1486.
      13 John Lyon, III Lord Glamis, Born 1431 in Glamis, Angusshire,Scotland. John died in April 1, 1497 at Glamis.. Privy Councillor toJames IV, Justice General of Scotland. He married Elizabeth Scrymgeuorborn 1435 in Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland. Elizabeth died October 20,1492. Elisabeth is the daughter of John Scrymgeour.
      14 [See John Lyon, IV Lord Glamis document]
      14 Patrick
      14 Charles
      14 William, died September 9, 1513, Battle of Flodden.
      10 Elizabeth de Lyon married Richard Wydville.
      11 John Wydville, married his cousin Elizabeth Wydville
      Elizabeth de Lyon then married John (Sir) Grey
      Elizabeth de Lyon later married King Edward IV.
      11 King Edward V, sent to the tower and smothered by order of hisuncle, at age about 12 years.
      11 Prince Robert
      11 Princess Elizabeth of York, married Henry VII
      12 Henry VIII
      13 Edward VI
      13 Mary I
      13 Elizabeth I
      10 Thomas de Lyon. Married Margaret.
      11 Elizabeth. Married her cousin John Wydville , son of Elizabeth andRichard Wydville.
      12 Thomas .
      9 Richard, born 1287
      9 John (Sir) de Lyon, Knight, 3rd son of feudal Baron ofForteviot, born 1290. In Norfolk, England. [Circa King Robert II 1300]He married Alice St Liz

  • Sources 
    1. [S883] Hamish Maclaren.

    2. [S2] Mac 14Febxx.FTW.