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John R. Ramsay

Male 1808 - 1887  (78 years)

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  • Name John R. Ramsay 
    Born 9 Jun 1808  Fleming, Kentucky, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Buried Feb 1887  Greene, Parke, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 15 Feb 1887  Putnam, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I20522  My Genealogy

    Father Alexander Robert Ramsay,   b. 22 Nov 1768, Huntington County, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 May 1846, Parke County, Indiana Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Mother Anne Moor Moore,   b. 3 Oct 1770, Winham, Connecticut, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Jul 1840, Parke, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years) 
    Married 1790  Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F5525  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • JOHN R. Ramsey RAMSAY---b. 09 Jun 1808, Fleming County, Kentucky d.15 Feb 1887, Putnam County, Indiana; son of Alexander & Ann Moor(e)Ramsey Ramsay; grandson of James & Mary Cochran Ramsey Ramsay. JohnR. Ramsay is probably the first cousin to Alexander Ramsay of whosejournal/diary (excerpts below) we have a copy of in type set. Johntraveled with Alex Ramsay out West to the California gold mines, andhe is mentioned in Alex's journal several times.

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      ?DIARY OF ALEX RAMSAY (1st cousin)
      (38 pages)
      Left Park(e) County, Indiana, for California March 21st 1849 incompany with John Ramsay, John Moor, Wm. Lusk, Wm. Inge and Wm. Smock,making six persons, with one wagon and six mules. Arrived St. Louis,278 miles, April 8th. (pg.1)
      Left St. Louis April 10th and arrived at St. Joseph, 530 miles, April16th, making 808 miles from home. Etc?(pg 1)
      May 6th; Sabbath. Moved two miles to a good camping ground and forthe purpose of meeting with the Springfield Company, consisting ofeight wagons and thirty-one men; our company of two wagons with elevenmen, making ten wagons and forty-two men. The wagons were loaded withfrom twenty-five to thirty-five hundred each. Etc?(pg. 1)
      May 10th; Joined by a company of seven wagons and twenty-six men fromDayton, Ohio. Our company now consists of seventeen wagons andsixty-eight men. Etc?(pg. 2)
      May 27th; Sabbath, did not travel. Had a pleasant day of rest and atfour o?clock in the afternoon had a sermon preached by a Presbyterianpreacher from Ohio. Had an excellent, practical sermon and anattentive audience. Moor no better. Etc?(pg. 5)
      June 1st; Started this morning early and traveled a few miles up theriver, passing an encampment of Sioux Indians. They appearedpeaceable and wanted to sell us horses or anything they had forwhiskey, but we did not trade any with them. Etc?(pg. 6)
      June 17th; Sabbath. The most important incident of today was thatsome hunters ran four buffalo into our camp. They were the first thatmost of us have had a plain view of, having seen them before at adistance. There was a good deal of excitement amongst us as the hugeanimals approached our camp in full lope. Every man was hurrying toprepare his gun for a shot and rushed out to meet them and as soon asthey came into shooting distance, every man fired away. One of thebuffalo was killed, the others wheeled off and made their escape.Etc?(pg. 9-10)
      July 4th; This is the Great Day of American Independence and on whichour nation will meet in crowds to do honor to the day and to offerthanks to God for the gift. It is from necessity a day of rest withus and as a natural consequence, our minds carry us back to our fardistant homes and friends and relatives, whilst we cannot suppress asecret wish that we could spend this day with them. ?But alas, howfleet is a glance of the mind compared with the spread of its flight.The tempest itself lags behind and the swift winged arrows of light,for alas recollection at hand soon hurries us back to despair.? Weare much worried by the trials and fatigues of the long journey andthe immense numbers of immigrants who are upon the road makes itdoubly tiresome from the fact that they are constantly in each other?sway, and more particularly at the crossings of rivers and difficultplaces on the road; here at this time are two or three hundred wagonswith their accompanying teams and men and the ground is covered with acoat of light dust of two inches in depth, which the wind isconstantly carrying to and fro whilst the sun is pouring down hishottest rays upon us, and the wonder is that some of us only and notall of us are sick. The river at this place runs a south course andis a tributary of the Colorado which empties into the Gulf ofCalifornia. This river, as well as all others in the vicinity of theRocky Mountains, rises and falls alternately once in twenty fourhours, the rise commencing at twelve o?clock of the day and continuingtill twelve at night, when it commences falling. This ebb and flow isowing to the melting of the snow in the mountains and only takes placefor awhile about this season of the year. This evening at fouro?clock I with eleven other immigrants were called upon by the crowden mass to serve on a jury in a case of murder which had beencommitted about a week since, back at Devil?s Gate, and the criminalwas apprehended a short distance beyond this and brought back here fortrial, but the trial failed in consequence of the inability of GeneralSimonson of the U.S. Army and his officers, to whom the immigrantslooked for a fair investigation of the case, but soon after the trialcommenced they quarreled among themselves and came to blows, when thecourt broke up in a row, and the prisoner recrossed the river and wenton his way rejoicing. There is a general expression of disapprovalamongst the people at the result, and in this case we believe we see afair sample of the protection that we may expect of lives and propertyduring our residence in California. Thus ended the Fourth of July,1849 on Green River. (pgs 14-15) Etc
      August 15th; Last night about midnight, the alarm of attack byIndians was given, the guard firing his gun calling for help. In ashort time all who could raise a gun were ready and marched forward inthe direction from which the alarm was given, and on reaching thesentinel, it was discovered that he had mistaken a mule for an Indianand had fired at it, but fortunately had missed his mark. He said hehad hailed it three times asking the watchword which it did not give,and then he fired and seeing that he had missed he called for help.There was a good deal of laughing done at his expense. This morningit was found that all were safe and well. We started early andfollowed the gorge all day, etc? (pg.26)
      Letter home to his brothers Samuel and Andrew and the sending of hisjournal diary to his brothers for safe keeping???etc?as John Ramsay orWm. Inge, who at this time intend to go straight home to Indiana, theycan tell you all about me?etc?? (pg 38).
      NOTE: If you ever wanted to know what it was like in the WestwardExpansion to the Gold Fields of California for settlers, thisjournal/diary is a wonderful piece of actual history. A movie screenwriter would love it. It is full of descriptions and information andadventure. Even if you are not related in any way, this would make awonderful history lesson for adults and children in bringing to life?how it actually was? for traveling settlers to the West in themid-1800?s.
      [Transcribed 29 Nov 2008, SLJuhl RNBSC, Compiler & Family Genealogist;]